When did you reallize that all upper level bodybuilders use juice to get to that level. I reallized this when i was looking through Arnold's Complete Bodybuilding Encyclopedia, and saw that even the most impresive bodybuilder before the 1950's or so looked, frankly, like shit. Which urges the question of why they stay in the closet? Surely the judges of those contests know whats going on? It makes me sick that these people continue to lie and claim that bogus supplements made them huge, taking advantage of those not in the "know".![]()