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    update on next cycle, need opinion pls

    STATS:

    6'2''
    210 lbs
    14 % bf (relatively higher since my last bulk diet)
    4 years training
    3rd cycle
    ***Diet is changing for a cutting phase with high protein intake

    last cycle was:
    sustanon250 500mg/week 1-10
    deca 400mg/week 1-10
    winstrol depot 50mg/day week 6-10
    dianabol 50mg/day week 1-4
    nolvadex 40mg/day week 1-10

    PCT:
    nolvadex 60mg/day week 11-16
    Tribulus 3000mg/day week 11-18
    ***many says my pct is bad...but i found it to be very effective and even gaining some weight after my cycle. no crash or libido lost. Tribulus always works great for me.***

    Now i'm planning my 3rd cycle:

    12 week: want to put some mass and have a more muscular look and reduce my body fat to 8-9%

    sustanon250 500mg/week1-12
    deca 400mg/week1-10
    primobolan 300mg/week1-12 (just need advice to how many mg i need per week)
    Anavar 40mg/day week1-8
    nolvadex 40mg/day week 1-12
    arimidex 0.5 mg/day week 1-12

    Pct:
    noklvadex 60mg/day week 13-20
    arimidex 2.5mg/day week 13-18
    tribulus 3000mg/day week 13-20

    any advice or change i should made? and

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    I dont understand why you are running sust; its for old men.

    Why such a high dose of Nolva? Save it for pct. Also, anything above 40 mg is a waste, imo.

    What is your logic with running all those compounds? I think your cycle and pct needs a lot of work.

    Good luck.

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    ok just change the sustanon for test e.

    nolva..i'm very sensitive to gyno when test is in..so just want more protection. maybe the adex should do the job. never use an AI before.

    i want to build mass with the deca because i found it to be the best lean bulker out there via the side effect. the test is for the jack up and the strenght.

    Primo...never use it but many says that it's a very good compounf=d to cut up fat and the lil gain are easy to maintain.

    anavar is for the fat loss and the strenght. those last two compound are easy on the body.

    But like i said...i need advice so if i must do correction...tell me please

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    Well you want to gain mass and cut 5-6% BF? I dont think thats going to happen. Its nearly impossible to do both at the same time and achieve your goals. I think youre running too many compounds. Save some of them for next cycle. If you want to bulk in the first 8 weeks and then cut in the last 4-6 weeks than plan your compounds accordingly. I think its a waste to run a bulker with a cutter at the same time. Again, JMO. Save your nolva for pct. In addition, any more than 20-40 mgs nolva IS a waste. If you are gyno prone, just run a single AI. It'll be all you need, imo.

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    i dont think it would be possible unless u never touched a weight before to drop more than MAYBE a 1-2% while puttin on any mass at all since dropping body fat requires a caloric deficite and adding mass requires a positive calorie intake.

    just dont know how u can walk in 2 directions at once.

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    12 weeks of primo? man this cycle is gonna cost money

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    IMO primo is useless unless you use it for 12 weeks...so thats costy$$$ but effective.

    So i un derstand what everybody said. I'm gonna use this cycle to cut up fat. But i just don't want to loose muscle mass. So that's why i thought that including bulking gear would support my muscle throught the entire cutting cycle.

    Thx by the way

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    FYI: Anabolics are the best cutting tool. You can bulk and cut on any compound. In otherwords, you do not need more anabolic compounds to maintain your mass. Do a little research on the what compounds are used during the course of a cycle and why. ie: dbol = great kickstart to many cycles because it kicks in fast while the longer esters build up, winny = great to use at the tail end of a cycle because it hardens and cut the muscle and provides a boost in strength.

    Understanding each compound in this way will save you a lot of time, money, and hard work. Good luck.

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