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    Hey I have been reading peoples post on how they lost libido on several different choices of AAS.

    I can attest to that, as Tren Acetate knocked my libido in the shitter. So I wonder what people have done to completely avoid it.

    I don't feel that Nolva is powerful enough to stop the negative effects of libido demolition on Tren. I tried that Gaspari stuff Novadex, and that stuff REALLY worked but only for a short time.
    I want to increase duration - not cut it to nothing (like Dbol does to us)...
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    So, withOUT taking more shots of whatever, what have people taken (supplements, oral) to avoid it. Any natural remedies? (non sarcastic ones )

    Really fearing this loss of libido again, why have the tank if you don't wanna shoot it?
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    Nolva increases PgR in breast tissue and gives more for trens nasty metabolites to bind to .. This can increase your chances of getting gyno. ( this is not a problem for everyone but all my friends that used nolva with a 19 nor had problems..

    Estrogen , prolactin , progesterone can all effect sex drive..

    Steroids lower t-3 and in turn increase prolactin so IMO its a good idea to use a small dose of t-3 to help with this ( 25 mcg ED seems to be a sufficient dose when using tren).

    Also caber or bromo is a good idea when using tren ... And an AI

    Do you run test with your tren ??


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    I don't know what Caber or Bromo is?
    I tried looking it up, and some computer company came up.. or people using the same slang.
    Also, playing with t-3 is kind of iffy, as I couldn't imagine messing my thyroid up for the rest of my life. BUT.. if it will prevent libido loss/enhance duration (vs. dbol etc) then I am interested in the mini-doses you suggested.

    Estrogen , prolactin , progesterone can all effect sex drive..
    ...negatively?
    I am looking for something to boost my duration up here, I remember tren fking me up huge. (Way back when)
    And no, no test for me, as that would be an 'easy answer' so to speak

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    Cabergoline (ca-BER-goe-leen) is used to treat different types of medical problems that occur when too much of the hormone prolactin is produced. It can be used to treat certain menstrual problems, fertility problems in men and women, and pituitary prolactinomas (tumors of the pituitary gland). It works by stopping the brain from making and releasing the prolactin hormone from the pituitary. Cabergoline use is usually stopped when prolactin levels are normal for 6 months. It may be given again if symptoms of too much prolactin occur again. Added this is also a dopamine receptor agonist. Meaning it frees up your limited dopamine receptors so that the pleasure hormone dopamine can be utilized by the body. This is of interest to bodybuilders in that elevated prolactin levels (Hyperprolactinaemia) can occur when using non aromatizing steroids such as trenbolone, M1T, anavar, halotestin, etc. High prolactin levels which directly correlates to low dopamine levels is responsible for low libido, erectile dysfunction, and the overall pleasure you feel when you do something enjoyable. There are many studies that show how prolactin (negatively) and dopamine (positively) effect mood, motivation, and all things pleasurable. Just as a side note this also makes orgasms stronger and harder. This has been used in cases of ED where even sildenafil citrate (Viagra) was not effective. This is not just an ED remedy, but also really does increase your desire for sex not just the ability to become erect. Usual dosage is .5mg once or twice a week until prolactin levels are normalized for 6 months. Research Unlimited's superior formulation of true pharmaceutical grade Cabergoline is formulated at .5 MG/ML and is 30 ML's per bottle.

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    Also you should run some test even just a low maintenance dose as this will help with libido issues..


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    Proviron always did the trick for me. 25mgs ed.

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    melanotanII makes me hump stuff..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    melanotanII makes me hump stuff..

    Yeah. Tell the truth tai, you spend all your time "jelquing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by inheritmylife
    Yeah. Tell the truth tai, you spend all your time "jelquing".
    nah if i did that i'd have a 3ft dong ><
    but god MT2 gives me the most PAINFUL boners EVER.. lol
    i mean i could ****ing impale an armidillo...

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    haha you guys are crazy..

    but thanks a ton, ill talk to my guy about it

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    bromo and caber help, so does test and proviron. any dht should as well for that matter. im looking into pt-141 which is the ingredient in melanotan 2 that makes people horny as hell. ill let u know how it goesi plan on ordering it soon.

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    That would be great IA, anything to up sexual performance is a plus!

    I think I will just take 100mg test with my tren.

    All I am looking to do, is drop body fat, not get big! (as my parents would find out, and kick me out, as threatened once before) but tren is the best/easiest/most beneficial way to do it I have found. Alongside the diet (which doens't even need to be 100% perfect with tren!)
    I will try eth though, because my guy says it stands the chance of being easier with side effects. So let's hope!


    Side Note: I wanted to make it a short cycle, but I guess 6 weeks, is only 4 weeks of the compound - right? (Due to it taking that time to start working in your body)
    *just wondering

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    well its very likely the reason you lost your libido is b/c you ran tren without any test. If your going to run a very supressive compound like tren, you at least need to run some HRT dose of test too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    melanotanII makes me hump stuff..
    that stuff is golden. I run it year-run, i swear that + stamina rx before the business will increase my lenght (temp) by a full half inch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2Anabolic
    That would be great IA, anything to up sexual performance is a plus!

    I think I will just take 100mg test with my tren.

    All I am looking to do, is drop body fat, not get big! (as my parents would find out, and kick me out, as threatened once before) but tren is the best/easiest/most beneficial way to do it I have found. Alongside the diet (which doens't even need to be 100% perfect with tren!)
    I will try eth though, because my guy says it stands the chance of being easier with side effects. So let's hope!


    Side Note: I wanted to make it a short cycle, but I guess 6 weeks, is only 4 weeks of the compound - right? (Due to it taking that time to start working in your body)
    *just wondering
    wouldnt the addition of test further enhance ur weight loss? I would just def. add the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaleModel
    that stuff is golden. I run it year-run, i swear that + stamina rx before the business will increase my lenght (temp) by a full half inch.
    shit i tried sending u a PM u have them disabled, malemodel can u tell me more about what u notice with that stuff? im REALLY anxious to try it out, although i will be doing straight bremelotide or pt-141 so i don't get dark but still get the libido aspect.

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    yeah MT2 is really good stuff..gives you a tan and a woody!! How can you not love it!! Read mixed reviews on PT-141, but Ive never tried it either

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    Tren 2wice a week
    Test 1nce a week
    And now melanotanII?

    Can someone educate me on the sexual benefits of this, and how it would tie into my cycle?
    Interested. Very, interested.

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    I've had some serious issues coming off gear and keeping a sex drive. I don't even use deca anymore cause I had about 3 months of nothing!!! it was the worst.. So what I do even tho A lot of guys on here say its "old news" and a waste of gear.. is I taper down at the end of my cycle. It really just makes the most sense to me. If you're taking 500 a week and you just stop of course your body will be shut down.. it has nothing in it at all.. but if you then do 250 and 100 you still have just a little left but it'll give your body some breathing room.. and thats the only time I've never been shut down totally and proviron is some really awesome stuff for keeping the sex drive!

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    if you decide to use mt2, make sure that you read up on it about doses etc., it has some sides that have been known to indirectly effect a cycle... for example, most first time users report nausea and flushing after injection, i have read where people have taken mt2 in the morning or during the day and having it effect their diet by not wanting to eat because of the nausea... just my .02

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    Is that it?! No more input?

    bummpp!

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    Someone who has done pt-141, let us know how it goes. I am thinking of picking some up for myself. I'm already getting mistaken for a colored dude, so I need to chill on the melanotan II for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginkobulloba
    Someone who has done pt-141, let us know how it goes. I am thinking of picking some up for myself. I'm already getting mistaken for a colored dude, so I need to chill on the melanotan II for a bit.
    hey mine arrived today, and if it works, ill post a thread about it. I will be a prime candidate to tell how strong or weak this shit is because my libido isnt good on even test, and bromo. However maybe the tren E (last injected 5 weeks ago) is still affecting me. who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2Anabolic
    Hey I have been reading peoples post on how they lost libido on several different choices of AAS.

    I can attest to that, as Tren Acetate knocked my libido in the shitter. So I wonder what people have done to completely avoid it.

    I don't feel that Nolva is powerful enough to stop the negative effects of libido demolition on Tren. I tried that Gaspari stuff Novadex, and that stuff REALLY worked but only for a short time.
    I want to increase duration - not cut it to nothing (like Dbol does to us)...
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    So, withOUT taking more shots of whatever, what have people taken (supplements, oral) to avoid it. Any natural remedies? (non sarcastic ones )

    Really fearing this loss of libido again, why have the tank if you don't wanna shoot it?
    try hcg. it works miracle to other bodybuilders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by critic7
    try hcg. it works miracle to other bodybuilders.

    true, but even that didnt work for me.

    to the thread poster: ill just give you a list of things that usually boost libido.
    HCG, Testosterone (any ester) Proviron, winny or masteron (with most people) TBOL, halotestin, pt-141 (bremelanotide) and thats all i know of for actual medicine drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    hey mine arrived today, and if it works, ill post a thread about it. I will be a prime candidate to tell how strong or weak this shit is because my libido isnt good on even test, and bromo. However maybe the tren E (last injected 5 weeks ago) is still affecting me. who knows.

    Cool, do you inject it or turn it into a nasal spray or what? I'm guessing it's injectable just like melanotan. Can't seem to find much info on pt-141. So I am really looking forward to hearing your results. Thanks for being the test monkey dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    true, but even that didnt work for me.

    to the thread poster: ill just give you a list of things that usually boost libido.
    HCG, Testosterone (any ester) Proviron, winny or masteron (with most people) TBOL, halotestin, pt-141 (bremelanotide) and thats all i know of for actual medicine drugs.

    Proviron sounds amazing, it allows for muscle hardness and a more "cut-look" (alongside the preventing of loss of libido and other tren sides) so that would be interesting to take with the Tren/Test.
    With a PCT of Nolva.

    Agree/Disagree??
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    Sucks that they say you can't take it without taking another anabolic substance, due to its potency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginkobulloba
    Cool, do you inject it or turn it into a nasal spray or what? I'm guessing it's injectable just like melanotan. Can't seem to find much info on pt-141. So I am really looking forward to hearing your results. Thanks for being the test monkey dude.
    no problem, ive been a test rat before, i honestly dont mind. I did .5 mg last night, BTW, the website i ordered from is legit, arrival was ONE DAY! and i got facial flushing and a mild weak ass stomach ache for about 10 minutes for both sides, thats it. but yeah it worked. i have had more erections, however .5 isnt enough, 1-2 mg is recommended, and i have a date this weekend, and 2 mg, here i come.


    ABOUT THE PROVIRON- dude dont expect to get real hard and "cut" from proviron, its alot weaker than winny in those regards. however it is good at keeping progesterone and estrogen in check (i hate using AI's) and keeping erections strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    true, but even that didnt work for me.

    to the thread poster: ill just give you a list of things that usually boost libido.
    HCG, Testosterone (any ester) Proviron, winny or masteron (with most people) TBOL, halotestin, pt-141 (bremelanotide) and thats all i know of for actual medicine drugs.
    which one of your list above do u think is the best remedy for libidio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    no problem, ive been a test rat before, i honestly dont mind. I did .5 mg last night, BTW, the website i ordered from is legit, arrival was ONE DAY! and i got facial flushing and a mild weak ass stomach ache for about 10 minutes for both sides, thats it. but yeah it worked. i have had more erections, however .5 isnt enough, 1-2 mg is recommended, and i have a date this weekend, and 2 mg, here i come.


    ABOUT THE PROVIRON- dude dont expect to get real hard and "cut" from proviron, its alot weaker than winny in those regards. however it is good at keeping progesterone and estrogen in check (i hate using AI's) and keeping erections strong.
    whoa, watch the dosage man. 2 is ALOT in my exp. Even if you weigh 200lb. IMO it should take you 2 months till you work ur way up that high . And thats still 2 much. You dont rlly need that much a day, trust me. Waste of money. You just need to be on longer, and with lower dosages. and if ur prone to freckles/mokes, 2mg will make them get dark like coal and possibly create many more. Watch out.

    just my advice, 1.5mg ed-eod should be max (unless ur just f'n huge). I weigh 215 and do 1mg eod and it worx perfect for me. I still get the erections, tho theyve considerably subsided since i started this stuff last year. But have avoided the rlly bad sides (moles), because i ramped up from .5 eod in a 2 month period. Dood srsly watch out, there have been cases were 2 high dosages have ruined peoples lives (not joking).

    the site prob goes by old rec. dosages because they profit more that way (dunno were you ordered from but this is most likely the case)

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    Alright, just to confirm as the topic starter :P

    My cycle: 200mgTren(I think?)2/w and 100mgTest 1/w
    === ---> and WHAT to help the Libido loss? Is PROVIRON good for it? ===
    PCT = Nolva

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    Okay Ill say this again being as everyones under the impression im taking melanotan 2.
    ===IM NOT====
    IM NOT
    im taking pt 141, or bremelanotide.
    and im 220 lbs, so not huge, not small.
    and i will be taking 1 mg of the pt 141 tonight, and 2 mg tomorrow night. hopefully ill get to a point where i cna inject it eod or something, cuza .5 mg wasnt 2 great.

    to the thread poster, well test is usually the best and safest remedy. proviron also works well. halotestin usually makes people VERY sexual. they all work well i didnt list any half ass ones, becuase half ass=half erection. this isnt a game.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaleModel
    whoa, watch the dosage man. 2 is ALOT in my exp. Even if you weigh 200lb. IMO it should take you 2 months till you work ur way up that high . And thats still 2 much. You dont rlly need that much a day, trust me. Waste of money. You just need to be on longer, and with lower dosages. and if ur prone to freckles/mokes, 2mg will make them get dark like coal and possibly create many more. Watch out.

    just my advice, 1.5mg ed-eod should be max (unless ur just f'n huge). I weigh 215 and do 1mg eod and it worx perfect for me. I still get the erections, tho theyve considerably subsided since i started this stuff last year. But have avoided the rlly bad sides (moles), because i ramped up from .5 eod in a 2 month period. Dood srsly watch out, there have been cases were 2 high dosages have ruined peoples lives (not joking).

    the site prob goes by old rec. dosages because they profit more that way (dunno were you ordered from but this is most likely the case)

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    I will now put some research into halotestin, thanks so much.

    This thread has become very popular, and I'm glad people all look for the same answers!
    (generally speaking)

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    Hmm.. next to anadrol - one of the most dangerous steroids out there.
    I think I'll keep my distance!

    Test & Proviron should do the trick I think. (agree/disagree?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2Anabolic
    Hey I have been reading peoples post on how they lost libido on several different choices of AAS.

    I can attest to that, as Tren Acetate knocked my libido in the shitter. So I wonder what people have done to completely avoid it.

    I don't feel that Nolva is powerful enough to stop the negative effects of libido demolition on Tren. I tried that Gaspari stuff Novadex, and that stuff REALLY worked but only for a short time.
    I want to increase duration - not cut it to nothing (like Dbol does to us)...
    ===
    So, withOUT taking more shots of whatever, what have people taken (supplements, oral) to avoid it. Any natural remedies? (non sarcastic ones )

    Really fearing this loss of libido again, why have the tank if you don't wanna shoot it?

    I like using Proviron and also having Viagra, Cialis on hand if needed. running HCG through your cycles helps you avod this to some degree.

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    Next tren test cycle I will take Merc. advise and run a little t-3 along side my caber and see if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69
    Okay Ill say this again being as everyones under the impression im taking melanotan 2.
    ===IM NOT====
    IM NOT
    im taking pt 141, or bremelanotide.
    and im 220 lbs, so not huge, not small.
    and i will be taking 1 mg of the pt 141 tonight, and 2 mg tomorrow night. hopefully ill get to a point where i cna inject it eod or something, cuza .5 mg wasnt 2 great.

    to the thread poster, well test is usually the best and safest remedy. proviron also works well. halotestin usually makes people VERY sexual. they all work well i didnt list any half ass ones, becuase half ass=half erection. this isnt a game.
    did u tried those product before (i imprint in bold) or is it just some opinion based on other people's experience:

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    not only have I used those two, ive used all the ones i stated on the post for drugs and AAS that help libido. add caber and bromocriptine to the list in case i didnt.

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    I have used a caber from a reputable research company. It's hard to tell if it worked

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    thanks ironaddict. u are the best as always. stay in touch with more feedback.

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