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    arobic vs anorobic?

    so today a good friend taught me something I previously didnt know about fat loss...is this correct?

    arobic is when you jog slowly or walk fast for a long period of time and it burns fat a good way of know whether you are accomplishing this is whether you can carry on a conversation during the activity or sing row row row your boat whatever...

    anorobic is when you run fast for a short time and you cant talk without huffin and puffin...this tends to burn sugar (glucose) instead of fat

    Is he right?

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    could really change my cardio excersizes right now I tend to play basketball or run a fast mile or 20 mijn hard on the bike

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    Absolutely right. Monitor your heart rate, keep it between 65-80% of your MHR.

    MHR = 220-age

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    He is right on the definition. However he is wrong on the effects. Both of these things burn calories that are in your blood glucose. Later, if there is a deficit in the amount of energy your body has to the amount it is expending, it will use fat and/or muscle. However anaerobic exercise has the advantage of dramatically boosting your resting metabolic rate for 24 hours.

    Of course you friend's ideas about what they do were thought to be right in the late 70's and 80's.

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    so what do you suggest sonny

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    We discussed this one a few days back..


    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=318032

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    i'm a nursing student and those definitions don't look correct to me lol.....i think of Aerobic as "oxygen necessary, or air necessary", and Anaerobic is not needing air....for certain body functions (kreb cycle etc.)

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    anaerobic metabolism is called glycolysis, which is glucose converted to pyruvate by means of 2 ATP molecules and 10 enzymatic reactions. The net product of this is 2 ATP per pyruvate molecule made, which is an overall gain of 2 ATP. If oxygen is present in sufficient amounts, pyruvate then enters the Krebs cycle (aka Citric Acid Cycle), where pyruvate is progressively processed into the electron transport chain (ETC). In the ETC 36-38 molecules of ATP are generated along with a few other energy rich molecules. The last two steps do not occur unless Oxygen is present. If it isnt then pyruvate is converted to lactic acid which is then transported to the liver as Lactate and is processed back into pyruvate.

    Pretty simple stuff. LOL

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    hey sonny and sling take a look at the new post in this thread please...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=318032

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    I posted an answer there. As well as a link to another thread where a lot of ways to do it are posted.

    Also in my previous post, when I said "definition", "application" would have been more accurate, since I discussed the exercise type. As the actual underlying definition has to do with oxygen and the Kreb cycle as stated above.

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    good info but says its not good during bulking

    im coming up on a lbm cycle should I use this method? in other words is there a type of cardio I can do while trying to put on some muscle and hardness that will target fat only and save my muscle

    how would you suggest going about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil-SLIM
    good info but says its not good during bulking

    im coming up on a lbm cycle should I use this method? in other words is there a type of cardio I can do while trying to put on some muscle and hardness that will target fat only and save my muscle

    how would you suggest going about this?

    I would advise against doing both muscle gain and fat loss at the same time. If you use steroids when cutting you may very well put on a small amount of muscle during the cut, but not much. If you want to bulk you have to eat, and that is going to prevent the fat loss.

    I would do little to no cardio while cutting. A small amount isn't going to hurt, but there isn't much point in burning some calories off and then having to eat that much more. Some people might use it to make up for binges, but that's not optimal. It's better to just keep the diet clean.

    That said, during a cut, HIIT will spare muscle and burn fat.

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    good info man thanx, hey what kind of cardio would basketball be considered the running is kinda up and down sorta

    what benefits would basketball as cardio have or what would this type of cardio result in?

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    anaerobic

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    Basketball is kind of a mix, mostly anaerobic though. Playing basketball would help with fat loss, general heart and lung health and help increase lung capacity. Lower resting heartbeat and blood pressure would probably go along with that as well. It shouldn't burn muscle as long as you aren't doing it excessively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil-SLIM
    hey sonny and sling take a look at the new post in this thread please...

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=318032
    I agree with sonny that no one should be doing aerobic work of any kind during a high volume mass phase (blast). However, some begin to lose insulin sensitivity during the de-load (cruising period) that should come after a blast to allow gains to become fully mainifested. Those who fall into that category can do 3 days per week of moderate intensity aerobics for 2 weeks and not interfere with gains. Obviously this not not needed for those who can control their diet.

    If you must do HIT or HIIT due to being involved in sports then you'll need to cut down on weight training volume to compensate for the extra drain on the CNS-hence you'll make less gains. Low to moderate intensity cardio will spare the CNS-hence allow you to do more weight training to make gains.

    Here's my question to you-are you trying to cut or bulk? You cannot do both at the same time!
    Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 10-25-2007 at 07:36 PM.

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