I'm about to start my first real cycle soon and I was wondering, how puffy do people using get when running deca + Test E while on nolva? Is my 6 pack going to still be visible if I'm around 10% BF or will I look too bloated for it to be visible?
I'm about to start my first real cycle soon and I was wondering, how puffy do people using get when running deca + Test E while on nolva? Is my 6 pack going to still be visible if I'm around 10% BF or will I look too bloated for it to be visible?
On a sufficient dose of nolvadex you should not retain too much water, if your estrogen prod. is 85% inhibited then you're basicly down to the progestagenic effects of thew nandrolone, since it bonds to the PR at about 20% the rate as progesterone itself. How much of each per week?
Starting with 200mg (Watson brand)
it depends on diet, cardio and genetics. Nolvadex is not an estrogen inhibitor, it just blocks certain estrogen receptor. I got decently bloated on it. Nothing i noticed day to day, but those who hadnt seen me in a while thought i gained alot in my face.
My advice--- an ai is going to be your best defense against the bloat. I liked letro, but that can only be used for 8 weeks or so. Exmestane is anotyher good one. I'd wait till you get bloated to start an ai. You might not need one at all. Just make sure to spend 45 mins 3 times a week on the eliptical.
I don't find nolv combats water retention. Deca/Test didn't bloat me that bad, though.
Your best bet is to use an AI like Arimidex or letro.
Nolva increses PgR and gives more for the metabolites to bind and can increase your chances of getting gyno when using it with a 19 nor ( deca )..
You could look into using an AI like adex or letro..
Merc.
if your arent running any deca just test will you still be prone to gyno with nolva?Originally Posted by Merc.
No..Originally Posted by freakon
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