starting now plannin spring cycle...please critique

[1luv]

wassup bros...

6'2" 190 approx 5% bf 4 or 5 cycles under the belt so far.

I am a firm believer in test in every cycle (tho i have experimented with some anavar and winny only cycles, been totally shut down with no libido)

HOWEVER....when i run test e or cyp, i bloat like crazy. Id love to add var or winny or clen or some other compound to keep off some of the bloat but money is a little tight...and i want to BE SURE i have money on hand in the case of some gyno flare up or something and for GOOD PCT.

What i wanted to ask is what people think of prop instead of the longer acting esters. Will it really make much more of a difference in the bloat? I was thinking prop 100mg EOD....or i saw an interesting cycle from the steroid.com site that listed prop @ 100mg a week with EQ. What yall think? Thanks in advance bros.

[Consistency]

personally I dont bloat that much on test enan and not at all on prop. But for everyone else prop has definetly less bloat compared to enan and cyp.

Have you run prop before?

And if you dont wanna run prop, you can run a low dose of test e or c (200mg per week) just for a baseline of test and this shouldnt cause that much bloat.

Also with prop, you should experience less bloat with ED injections as compared to EOD injections because ED levels is keep test levels more even thus preventing hormonal imbalances which can cause water retention

[Consistency]

also... really 5% BF??, thats not healthy for long periods of time, not to mention hard to maintain without drugs

[1luv]

yeh...really close to 5%...i am in the middle of packing on the calories and gaining some mass b4 i start this. I lost alot of weight recently just with some clen and ALOT of cardio. not to brag, but i look good.

[1luv]

so would you say 200 mg of e or cyp would be a better option....less sticks and prolly not much bloat at all? then some EQ with it? i love eq

[Consistency]

yeah I love EQ, I've ran it twice at 400mg and then 600mg, I love the vascularity and lean solid gains

[TexSavant]

Yes. I ran it with deca, EQ is great. I want to run it with Tren and Test this spring.

[1luv]

anyone had much experience with running a longer acting test ester at a lower dose like this? trying to compare that with running prop ED or EOD.

[stitch1967]

This summer I ran a cycle of sust 375mg/wk (shot on MWF) and anavar 50mg/day and had an incredilble cycle. drop 5% bf and added 15 lbs.

I was going to do the same cycle with enan but ended up getting a great deal on the sust.

[1luv]

is there really any advantages to sust and having the 4 diff types of test? Basically i know i want to run EQ and know i need a test in there and cant decide which one.

[PEWN]

not flamming by any means ..... but 5 % bf......

[1luv]

man...im just about 5% right now @ 6'2" 190...like consistency said...its not healthy to stay there very long.

[1luv]

but any input on the low dose test question pewntang?

[PEWN]

by low dose test im assuming you mean hrt dose... 100mg test cyp a week..... corrent ? and you are wanting to run eq at say a higher dose 600mg a week along with your 100mg of test..... correct... ? and your not wanting bloat...

you will get less bloat with prop but you will have to shoot ed.. and at 5% you are going to hold water reguardless so choose a cycle you want ... keep deca out or dbol out and you should do fine..... this also mainly depends on your diet.... sodium intake.... exc....

[stitch1967]

not flamming by any means ..... but 5 % bf......

yeah...i dropped 5% bf from 17 to 12....I'm 40 give me a frickin' break...it was a good cycle for me....what's the issue...p

[stitch1967]

is there really any advantages to sust and having the 4 diff types of test? Basically i know i want to run EQ and know i need a test in there and cant decide which one.

Some say that it is actually disadvantage...I liked it because of the quick action of the short esters (BTW i did front load a bit the first week 600mg instead of 375) and like I said I got a great deal on 20cc's of it.


I believe if I do enan again, i will jump start with prop if I can't find any sust.

[PEWN]

yeah...i dropped 5% bf from 17 to 12....I'm 40 give me a frickin' break...it was a good cycle for me....what's the issue...p

he didnt say he dropped 5% hes saying he is 5% ....

[1luv]

so im thinkin about enan or cyp 150-200mg a week (inject every 3rd day) and eq minimum 400mg/wk depending on money situation. As for a jump start to my cylce, i might give that amplify 02 a start and use it heavily preworkout