help me plan mycycle!!

[fdrx7man]

Ok this is my first real stacking cycle guys.. ive done a cycle before of just test cyp at 200mg per week... yes i know weak!! but i was nervous and scared since it was my first time.. I actually got sorta decent gains with that also.. but here is my products I am in the process of finding to use! what do you guys think and how should i cycle them in your opnions..

my stats 5'11" 190pounds 17%BF and 24 years of age, I exercise and eat well.. just have a hard time losing the fat, so im going this route, during this cycle my diet will be extra strict and I will up my protein 100% and lower my fat intake as much as possible!! ill eat all i can tho!!

my goals is to gain a solid 15-20 pounds of lean mass, and try and drop to around 10-12% body fat. let me know if this is good or not.? thanks in advance!!

100 tabs of 50mg winstrol
2-10mL vials of Sustanon 250
1-10mL vial of deca 200mg
50- nolvadex tabs 30mg
1- bottle of AG Liqui Clen
1- bottle of AG Liqui T3

thats what im planning on having total..

I was thinking about doing this for 10 weeks cycle and then using the clen/t3 after my first cycle to help cut any fat i may have gained..

week 1-10 will be idential everyday except maybe for the nolvadex which ill add in there how i will use it if all goes to plan! :-)

week 1-10
monday, 200mg deca, 250mg of sustanon, 50mg of winny
tues, 50mg winny
weds, 50mg winny
thurs, 250mg sustanon, and 50mg winny
friday, 50mg winny
sat, 50mg winny
sun, 50mg winny

now starting on week 7, I was planing on adding in 30mg of Nolvadex per day along with the winny if all goes to plan.. does this sound good??

then after that cycle is over with, i was planning on doing the clen/t3 cycle with the rest of the winny..

2 weeks on and 2 weeks off..
mon- 100mg clen, and 50mg t3, 50mg winny
tues- same as above
weds- same as above
thurs- same as above
fri- same as above
sat- same as above
sun- same as above

after my 2 weeks are done with the clen/t3 i will continue on for one week longer using the last of my winny at 50mg per day!

Like i said this is my first real cycling stack so i may have flaws, thats why im posting.. ive read and read and read up on this stuff before i even thought about doing this.

[Cun0144]

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[fdrx7man]

so i should look for something like clomid instead of nolvadex?

[fdrx7man]

i have access to nolvadex and clomid so i can use either or both.. I also have access to test cyp, would it be better if i kept my cycle just as it is above, except swap the deca for cyp??

[Big]

so i should look for something like clomid instead of nolvadex?

Nope, you should instead have an ai on hand, like arimidex.
Also winny for 10 weeks seems a bit much to me.

[Big]

i have access to nolvadex and clomid so i can use either or both.. I also have access to test cyp, would it be better if i kept my cycle just as it is above, except swap the deca for cyp??

No, sust is test so there would be no need to add more test.

[fdrx7man]

ok good stuff!! if i go with the arimidex, id run it for about 2 weeks after my cycle to help out with PCT?? and if i go with arimidex should i just forget about clomid and nova then? and just start using the arimidex at say week 7 and go, two weeks longer with it than i did with my real cycle?? does that sound fair?

[Big]

ok good stuff!! if i go with the arimidex, id run it for about 2 weeks after my cycle to help out with PCT?? and if i go with arimidex should i just forget about clomid and nova then? and just start using the arimidex at say week 7 and go, two weeks longer with it than i did with my real cycle?? does that sound fair?

No, I would have the arimidex on hand in case signs of gyno appear while on cycle, or bloating, if so I would take .25eod while on cycle. As for pct check out Anthony Roberts pct, it is highly recommended for suppressive cycles like this. You can find it near the top of the pct section of this board.

[fdrx7man]

cool, thanks for the info bro!!

just for my knowledge, do you think my goals for this cycle are within grasp or am i kinda off on what i should expect??

[Big]

Those gains are obtainable, but diet, training, and genetics will play a larger role than the gear itself.

[fdrx7man]

yes i understand, my diet is going to be very strict for a week or two before i begin, during and after for a few weeks while im om PCT.. training will of course be improved but i train well as it is.. so no issue there.. genetics well i dunno we will see :-)

[Big]

yes i understand, my diet is going to be very strict for a week or two before i begin, during and after for a few weeks while im om PCT.. training will of course be improved but i train well as it is.. so no issue there.. genetics well i dunno we will see :-)

Really if you want long term keepable gains, your diet needs to be strict from now on. If you keep it strict for a few weeks after cycle during pct, then let it lapse, so will your gains. As you build a bigger machine, you need more fuel to maintain the size, it has to become a lifestyle.

[fdrx7man]

well yeah ill still eat like a horse lol, i was more less saying i wont say no to mayo on a sandwich a few weeks after my cycle.. but it will basicaly stay the same and consistant!

as for my PCT, i think I will do his PCT with 20mg nolva, and vit e, and hgc for 6 weeks as im slowly tappering everything down to just 20mg of nolva for the last 2 weeks..

hopefully that will work!!

but you think as long as im injecting the deca i should not use nolva at all.. just wait till im done with my cycle and then use it for PCT?

[Big]

Yep, nolva while using a 19nor such as deca or tren could actually increase your chances of gyno, save it for pct after the deca is out of your system.

[fdrx7man]

excellent stuff!!! i soo appreciate your help man!! since this is my first real cycle i knew no matter how much I read id need some advice!! Thanks a Million, and if anyone else has any opnions please chime in..

one last thing..

is the liqinolva, and the L-dex from the AG any good?? or should i opt to find the real stuff?

[BamaBoy24]

whats up? GREAT Q@A! How do u get people to that? I have posted but no response. THANKS!

[Big]

I like arr for research chems, they are at the upper right banner on this page. I find that the research chem versions are just as good as the real thing.

[Big]

whats up? GREAT Q@A! How do u get people to that? I have posted but no response. THANKS!

I read your post, but I've never ran eq and I only like to advise from personal experience, so I'm waiting for someone who knows more than I do to chime in.

[fdrx7man]

ha ha, i love this site!! thanks bro again!!