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    HCG questions

    Okay so to make a long story short, my source originally couldnt get HCG so I planned a PCT running Nolva 40/40/20/20 with aromasin 25mg/day during that duration as well. Im starting my PCT today and my source just came through with HCG unexpectedly for me last night. So now I have 10kiu of it on hand at the last minute. I just spent the last two hours reading virtually every post on here regarding the subject to inquire about mixing, dosing ect. But a few questions remain.

    1. The "Kit" came with 2 bottles of the powder and 2 glass vials of the liquid to mix it with. Can I use that solution if I mix the two? I read that the kit comes with a one time use mixture so I need to purchase some Bacteriostatic water instead.

    2. Since the kit came in what appear to be a 2x5ml bottle(about half the size of a standard test bottle w/ rubber stopper at the top) can i just mix what I have in that bottle or do I need to purchase a sterile vile to store them in.

    3. If I do need to order both BacH20 and the vial to store it in from lion should I still use the HCG being that I probably wont have the stuff till 3 days from now(not sure if he has overnight shipping) and PCT is starting today with Nolva and Aromasin?

    4. I was planning on running 500iu's eod or e3d. Is that too little?

    FYI my cycle was

    1-12 Test E 500mg/week
    1-10 Deca 250mg/week

    Today is the start of week 14.

    Any help is appreciated very much.
    Last edited by Flamingo; 11-25-2007 at 09:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Okay so to make a long story short, my source originally couldnt get HCG so I planned a PCT running Nolva 40/40/20/20 with aromasin 25mg/day during that duration as well. Im starting my PCT today and my source just came through with HCG unexpectedly for me last night. So now I have 10kiu of it on hand at the last minute. I just spent the last two hours reading virtually every post on here regarding the subject to inquire about mixing, dosing ect. But a few questions remain.

    1. The "Kit" came with 2 bottles of the powder and 2 glass vials of the liquid to mix it with. Can I use that solution if I mix the two? I read that the kit comes with a one time use mixture so I need to purchase some Bacteriostatic water instead.

    2. Since the kit came in what appear to be a 2x5ml bottle(about half the size of a standard test bottle w/ rubber stopper at the top) can i just mix what I have in that bottle or do I need to purchase a sterile vile to store them in.

    3. If I do need to order both BacH20 and the vial to store it in from lion should I still use the HCG being that I probably wont have the stuff till 3 days from now(not sure if he has overnight shipping) and PCT is starting today with Nolva and Aromasin?

    4. I was planning on running 500iu's eod or e3d. Is that too little?

    FYI my cycle was

    1-12 Test E 500mg/week
    1-10 Deca 250mg/week

    Today is the start of week 14.

    Any help is appreciated very much.

    I ran pct for test e / dbol cycle,

    nolva 20mgs/day/ 4 weeks
    aromasin 25 mgs/day 4 weeks
    Vitamin e 1000 iu/ day 4 weeks

    I did not run HCG with my pct.
    My opinion i did not need it, and all was fine.

    Iam on my 2nd cycle and plan on running the same pct with no HCG.

    Peace Out.

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    Do not run HCG during your PCT. It will hinder your body's recovery because it supresses. It should be utilized during a cycle to prevent your balls from shrinking to the size of peanuts.

    The average dose is 500iu - 1000iu (X2) each week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalinstinct View Post
    Do not run HCG during your PCT. It will hinder your body's recovery because it supresses. It should be utilized during a cycle to prevent your balls from shrinking to the size of peanuts.
    Doesnt Nolva conteract its suppresive characteristics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    Doesnt Nolva conteract its suppresive characteristics?
    Yes !!!


    Merc.

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    Tamoxifen suppresses gonadotropin-induced 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone accumulation in normal men.Smals AG, Pieters GF, Drayer JI, Boers GH, Benraad TJ, Kloppenborg PW.
    Intramuscular administration of 1500 IU hCG daily for 3 days induced a transient accumulation of 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone (17 OHP) relative to testosterone (T) in normal men, reaching its maximum 24 h after the first injection (17 OHP to T ratio, 1.7 +/- 0.3 times baseline; P < 0.01). Simultaneous administration of hCG and the estrogen antagonist tamoxifen (20 mg twice daily) almost completely abolished the hCG-induced steroidogenic block localized between 17 OHP and T (17 OHP to T ratio at 24 h, 1.1 +/- 0.1 times baseline; P < 0.01 vs. hCG alone). These data indirectly suggest that, in man, the hCG-induced steroidogenic lesion might be mediated through its estrogen-stimulating effect.

    PMID: 7419679 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
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