Thanks for the advice...one more question

[feanixco]

So after getting some good advice I have decided to stick with Test-E 500 mg/week for 12 weeks.

I have been training for about 7 years now.
26 years old
163 lbs
5'6"

I want a really lean rock hard finish. My diet is in check and my training is intense. Should I add Winstrol towards the end of my Test cycle or maybe something else? 5 months until summer... just thinking ahead

[naturalsux]

So after getting some good advice I have decided to stick with Test-E 500 mg/week for 12 weeks.

I have been training for about 7 years now.
26 years old
163 lbs
5'6"

I want a really lean rock hard finish. My diet is in check and my training is intense. Should I add Winstrol towards the end of my Test cycle or maybe something else? 5 months until summer... just thinking ahead

masteron would be safer than winstrol.100-150mg eod or 600mg ew

[RBIZZY]

from what i have gathered, winny really has no place in a mass cycle... id go with something like EQ...... ive heard great things about it. go to the steroids profile section and read about EQ, see if that is what your looking for. maybe throw in some d-bol at 40mgs per week for 4 weeks. i would run a cycle like this:
weeks 1-4 d-bol 40mg ed
weeks 1-14 test enanthate 250mg twice a week
weeks 1-12 EQ 200mg twice a week

i think with that and the proper diet and of course the proper PCT then you would see some nice gains......just my openion.

[soccer#3]

if its ur first cycle, then i'd suggest not to get too greedy. just stick wit ur test e. 5 more months u'll have time to run something else if u want. round off wit a nice pct. good luck

[JuicedUpCanuk]

I agree just stick with the test , if its your first time you will see awsome gains anyway . Sounds like you got every thing else in check , save the expermentation for the next cycle after you know how you are going to react to the test .

[Amorphic]

from what i have gathered, winny really has no place in a mass cycle... id go with something like EQ...... ive heard great things about it. go to the steroids profile section and read about EQ, see if that is what your looking for. maybe throw in some d-bol at 40mgs per week for 4 weeks. i would run a cycle like this:
weeks 1-4 d-bol 40mg ed
weeks 1-14 test enanthate 250mg twice a week
weeks 1-12 EQ 200mg twice a week

i think with that and the proper diet and of course the proper PCT then you would see some nice gains......just my openion.

eq isnt really suited for a bulker either imo.

[RBIZZY]

eq isnt really suited for a bulker either imo.

i thought that EQ could be used for a bulker or a cutter.....that its alot like deca but not as strong. and he said that he wanted to stay lean or so to speak, and thats why he was woundering about the winny, so i toke it as he didnt just want straight mass, he wanted size and try to stay lean too, so i thought that maybe EQ would help him with that along with a good diet.....and it says to run EQ with a test.......

[Amorphic]

eq is quite different than deca, most if not all with experience regarding eq say it is hardly worth the time and the gains are minimal (albeit quality)

deca is a 19nor and can pack on a lot of weight, much more than eq ever could.

the only use of eq i have heard of in a bulker is for its appitite stimulation

[RBIZZY]

you hit the nail on the head. that was what i was getting ready to post up... here it is
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_748643/mpage_2/tm.htm

[big_dubya33]

I'd stay away from EQ first cycle. In my experience, adding EQ did nothing to gains and came with sides. Need to start with test and build from there so you know how you react to different compounds. dbol kickstart ok though - you can gauge it's effect before test kicks in.

good luck

[feanixco]

Thanks guy...you have helped alot! So whats everyone's opinion on jump starting the Test with some D-bol? Should I .....or not?

[RBIZZY]

its a very good idea... you get instaint reseults for the first 4 weeks and by the time you stop in the test starts to kick in..... i personally wouldnt do a test only cycle with out some d-bol......hell i wouldnt do a bulker with out a little d-bol.... i love the stuff, just make sure to get some milk thistle extract to help your liver out when taking d-bol.....

[green22]

just use test only. wait till you get some size before experimenting with other drugs. Keep Things Simple.