Everyone where I turn I hear some some supposed "expert" "guru" or "professional" say something along the lines of "Less is more in bodybuilding." I understand thier concept, but when they all recoemend methods for me tro overcome weak areas or sticking points I am left with a feeling of "are you really serious!!??" I mean they recomend 8-9 sets at most...and some of them have even told me 2 sets per bodypart. WTF is the point of coming to they gym if you are going to be done in 15-20 minutes or with 2 sets..in less than five minutes. What satisfaction is there in going to the gym for a good 15 minutes of weight lifting? It goes against science that your body will grow with such limited muscular contractions! I mean beginners and such maybe, but damm! I know overtraining is a growingproblem with people today but my exoeriance as well as my two freinds who are competitive bodybuilders, if your not in 16 sets area you arent doing much. Even biceps deserve at least 12 sets..or 10 if usuing high reps lighter workout. But large muscles like the legs, chest, and back...16-20 sets is good. It seems that people are so fearful of overtraining that they seem to workout like *****s nowadays. Yeah some of these people still see gains but dam ...look at how much people depend on supplements and PH..and steroids nowadays its ridiculous. With just glutamine, creatine, and protein I can keep up in areas of progress with most of the 15-30minute workout steroid guys at the gym. What evr happened to the old school Schwarzegger/ Columbo type work ethic? High set training, good nutrition!