Bulk Cycle (Gettin bigger for comp)

[flex_w]

hi guys i have been trying to make the perfect cycle and i have been making a couple threads on what kind of cycles would be good. i have made a cycle now which i feel that ill get some quality mass. i will show you my stats

Age: 22
Height: 183cm
Weight: 105kg Lean (offseason 116kg)
Cycles: 4 and my dosages were fairly high roughly for test ( 500 - 950mg weeklys)
Goals: To Compete and become the Countrys Bodybuildin champ OH YEAH
Side Effects: none

i havent measure myself because i never thought about it but my best bodyparts are BACK//LATS//ARMS//LEGS//SHOULDERS// my traps were lagging a bit now there growing and catching up and my forearms are in good size but i reckon they can do better.

now to my cycle:

Week 1 - 4 Anadrol 50mgs
Week 1 - 4 Insulin 10iu's
Week 1 - 12 Test E 1000mg
Week 1 - 12 Tren A 500mg
Week 1 - 10 Deca 800mg

I have Arimidex on hand and also Letro. and my PCT will consist of HCG NOLVA CLOMID & Tribulus along with Vitamin E like most of you guys told me to get.

Now if you guys have any Suggestions please feel free to comment because i want to get the most out of this cycle for example if you think i should drop somthing and change it around with somthing else or change dosages or weeks please tell me thankyou.

[topnotch]

why deca and tren? most people dont recommend running two 19-nors...have you done this before though?

[peteroy01]

and why use Tren A when your using Test E and Deca?

[flex_w]

well i will drop the Deca and in its place i can put Equipose in because i have alot left over from previous cycles

[fsu1985]

taking decca and tren, especially at those doses, is bad news bears. two 19 nors, like mentioned before, is not a good idea.

i did a test/eq/tren cycle and had huge gains however that is taking 1 mild (eq) and two extremely androgenic (tren,test) compounds so plan on being a bit loony as i was.

i would drop the tren with the cycle if you want to put mass on and use the decca. i would also cut back on the weekly doses of decca to 600 mgs and run it for 12 weeks- most people would agree that decca should be ran for at least that long.

i am currently taking a gram of sust with 600 mgs of decca a week and i have put quite a bit of stregnth on (off season right now). i went from hitting 395 twice on the bench (8 weeks ago) to 405 three times just to show how good the stregnth gains have been. before, 8 weeks ago, i was taking 600 mgs of eq with my test for 10 weeks and when i switched to decca my stregnth and weight gains have gone through the roof.

i would stash the tren away for a upcoming cutting cycle.

[Booz]

and why use Tren A when your using Test E and Deca?

why not??

[Booz]

taking decca and tren, especially at those doses, is bad news bears. two 19 nors, like mentioned before, is not a good idea.

i did a test/eq/tren cycle and had huge gains however that is taking 1 mild (eq) and two extremely androgenic (tren,test) compounds so plan on being a bit loony as i was.

i would drop the tren with the cycle if you want to put mass on and use the decca. i would also cut back on the weekly doses of decca to 600 mgs and run it for 12 weeks- most people would agree that decca should be ran for at least that long.

i am currently taking a gram of sust with 600 mgs of decca a week and i have put quite a bit of stregnth on (off season right now). i went from hitting 395 twice on the bench (8 weeks ago) to 405 three times just to show how good the stregnth gains have been. before, 8 weeks ago, i was taking 600 mgs of eq with my test for 10 weeks and when i switched to decca my stregnth and weight gains have gone through the roof.

i would stash the tren away for a upcoming cutting cycle.

sorry but tottall tosh mate...................
tren and deca can be ran and has been ran by many including myself with great succsess mate,you just gotta watch out for the sides,but aslong as you have caber/bromo ect on hand just in case there will not be a problem..........
why drop the tren if he wants to put mass on???tren is a great addition for a mass cycle...................

[fsu1985]

sorry but tottall tosh mate...................
tren and deca can be ran and has been ran by many including myself with great succsess mate,you just gotta watch out for the sides,but aslong as you have caber/bromo ect on hand just in case there will not be a problem..........
why drop the tren if he wants to put mass on???tren is a great addition for a mass cycle...................

if you can run that much decca and tren together consider it a gift from god first off. and i can answer that very easily- i dont like the idea of progesterone floating around in my blood. i cant mix the two and not have horrible sides- limp dick, tender nips, etc.

why take a risk of taking both of those compounds together by knowing that tren, like test, is extrememly androgenic. how high do you want your levels to be? i just dont see the point in taking a chance of mixing the two in my opinion. not only that- good luck attempting to get your natural levels back on after that cycle. those two supress the hell out of your body's ability along with test.

tren is a good addition for a mass cycle as it is also for a cutting cycle.

my response to you, your repsonse is total trosh- mixing those two causes so many side effects its almost as if the pros outweigh the cons.

[peteroy01]

Booz- i can also drive through a drive through in reverse but im not. why take tren A when your taking 2 long acting esters Deca(1-2 shot per wk) and Test E(twice a week)? i know it can be done but why would you want to shot yourself up ED?
makes since in my head to go-
Test E
Tren E
Deca

or

Test P
Tren A
NNP

[peteroy01]

not trying to be a smart ass

[buffgator]

taking the two together might be a little advaced for a 4th cycle, but can be done. taking tren and deca together the progesterin levels are not accumulitave.

[Bossman]

Bro, my last 3 cycles were short esthers shot ED. I prefer to shoot ED. It keeps me focused and I like that fact that the compounds are in my system quick and out quick when I want to end my cycle. I can understand newbies wanting to avoid that but more experienced users will not have a problem at all with that. Add in some slin and gh and you might be shooting yourself 4 times a day.

It all depends on where you are and where you want to go. The starter of this thread wants to go "all the way". Just like me.

Booz- i can also drive through a drive through in reverse but im not. why take tren A when your taking 2 long acting esters Deca(1-2 shot per wk) and Test E(twice a week)? i know it can be done but why would you want to shot yourself up ED?
makes since in my head to go-
Test E
Tren E
Deca

or

Test P
Tren A
NNP

[flex_w]

As i said before i will drop the Deca and just do TEST TREN INSULIN AND EQ (EQ i have alot left over) the sky is the limit for me im going to go all out on this cycle.

[buffgator]

i personaly would not do the insulin. It is very dangerous and can just make you fat if not taken with some hgh. Allot of guys I know have 10-20 years of cycling and contest under their belts and still will not touch insulin. I am not trying to preach, just watching out for you.

[peteroy01]

ok dude i can possible understand sticking ed puts lead in your pencil but your talking about in and out of you system fast when hes got deca and test E in the mix. all im saying is if the majority of AAS hes using has long esters, why not stick with all long ester?

[buffgator]

ok dude i can possible understand sticking ed puts lead in your pencil but your talking about in and out of you system fast when hes got deca and test E in the mix. all im saying is if the majority of AAS hes using has long esters, why not stick with all long ester?

price, avalability, allready having some left from a previouse cycle ect.

[peteroy01]

never mind, 2 late

[topnotch]

looks like a good cycle either way your go flex...and i know some guys that have ran deca and tren together and have had great results...just wondering if you had before...not saying i'm against it...

[flex_w]

i personaly would not do the insulin. It is very dangerous and can just make you fat if not taken with some hgh. Allot of guys I know have 10-20 years of cycling and contest under their belts and still will not touch insulin. I am not trying to preach, just watching out for you.

i appreciate you tryna watch over me and i know how dangerous insulin is but it's alot more dangerous to a person who has no knowledge about insulin. all i have been doing for the past couple months is the best and safest ways to do insulin and what i would need for preperation of insulin.

[ACAZORES]

put if we take tren and deca same time and use caber during will we get no sides?
is caber the solution? if yes we all can use tren with deca same time and gains will be high and sides low