Fat Burning

[magic32]

Okay 60mgs plus of Var in a Test base, with a Nor (preferably Tren) and another variable like Mast, Winnie, Tbol, GH your call!

But with fat loss, synergy is everything, so you need to align as many elements as possible. Here are some tips:
I'm a fan of empty stomach AM cardio, but don't become stagnant w/the same AM cardio exercise, vary the training and intensity, with the bulk coming from weight-bearing exercises (not bikes). Be sure to inject some HIIT in the form of short bursts and/or jump rope.
Good article: http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Best-C...rt-2&id=304737

AM cardio results are augmented by a follow up session during the day...take advantage of it, like 20-30mins pre or post-lift. Also, a recent Japanese study proved a long held practice of mine, that 30mins of cardio with a 20min rest (usually spent on midsection) followed by another 30mins enhances metabolic results far more than a mere 60min session.
Write up: http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...-burn-more-fat
Actual study: http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...act/102/6/2158

Be sure to incorporate items from this list: http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...elp-lose-jan07

Components you probably haven't considered: http://insidefatburning.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

[PEWN]

Okay 60mgs plus of Var in a Test base, with a Nor (preferably Tren) and another variable like Mast, Winnie, Tbol, GH your call!

But with fat loss, synergy is everything, so you need to align as many elements as possible. Here are some tips:
I'm a fan of empty stomach AM cardio, but don't become stagnant w/the same AM cardio exercise, vary the training and intensity, with the bulk coming from weight-bearing exercises (not bikes). Be sure to inject some HIIT in the form of short bursts and/or jump rope.
Good article: http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Best-C...rt-2&id=304737

AM cardio results are augmented by a follow up session during the day...take advantage of it, like 20-30mins pre or post-lift. Also, a recent Japanese study proved a long held practice of mine, that 30mins of cardio with a 20min rest (usually spent on midsection) followed by another 30mins enhances metabolic results far more than a mere 60min session.
Write up: http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercis...-burn-more-fat
Actual study: http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...act/102/6/2158

Be sure to incorporate items from this list: http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...elp-lose-jan07

Components you probably haven't considered: http://insidefatburning.blogspot.com...1_archive.html

good write up but the .... webmd, the good house keeping, and inside fat burning links arent working ?

[magic32]

Pewn, I see the problem.
Reassemble the prefixes (www, http:, //)manually...


Good article:
http://
ezinearticles.com/?The-Best-C...rt-2&id=304737

Write up:
www.
webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20070720/fitness-plan-rest-to-burn-more-fat

Actual study:
http://
jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/102/6/2158

Be sure to incorporate items from this list:
http://
www.
goodhousekeeping.com/health/nutrition/foods-help-lose-jan07

Components you probably haven't considered:
http:
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insidefatburning.blogspot.com/search?q=air+conditioner

[Amorphic]

nice

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Hey magic, I'm assuming your cycle is good for both clean bulk and cutting right?

In anycase, I've fallen in love with it just looking at the compounds

[magic32]

Hey magic, I'm assuming your cycle is good for both clean bulk and cutting right?

In anycase, I've fallen in love with it just looking at the compounds

Good call Insane, of course diet is the determinant in goal orientation.
Okay, truth be told I just threw those general cutting compounds up there to validate use of this forum for greater exposure. The KEY data is what follows, take a look those links and you'll be glad you did. Remember this info is as important as the gear you choose.

SEE POST # 3 FOR LINK CORRECTIONS

[Merc..]

Good post Magic....


Merc.

[buffgator]

good post. I am doing my 45min in morning on an empty stomach, and my 30min post workout.

[reconforce4]

great for lean mass, how about just a protein shake no carbs before the cardio?

[magic32]

great for lean mass, how about just a protein shake no carbs before the cardio?

Nope...empty stomach!

The time between dinner/last meal and arising creates a pseudo-fasting state within the body. This permits far greater stored fat access due to bloodstream glucose and liver glycogen store depletions. Anything you eat prior to working out, even though digestion takes hours, is still subject to quick bloodstream entry via other routes most notably sublingual.

For example, when awake we don’t routinely go for 8-11 hrs w/o eating. So even when you're very hungry after say 4hrs, and somewhat irritable due to lowered blood glucose levels, the aforementioned mechanism provide near instantaneous remedy. As soon as you begin eating you almost immediately feel better because of these alternate nutrient processing routes. Now this same energy is provided at an even more efficient level after longer deprived overnight sleep, truly making breakfast the most important meal of the day. So in order to take advantage of your body’s depleted state, you don’t want to consume anything other than nutrient free water. This however, excludes calorie free synthetic energy, such Ephedra and its related products which certainly augment AM workouts.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Good call Insane, of course diet is the determinant in goal orientation.
Okay, truth be told I just threw those general cutting compounds up there to validate use of this forum for greater exposure. The KEY data is what follows, take a look those links and you'll be glad you did. Remember this info is as important as the gear you choose.

SEE POST # 3 FOR LINK CORRECTIONS

Just looked at the links...good stuff... had a laugh at the contagious obesity thing...reminded me of a recent episode of Boston Legal

Also scored 8/15 on fat burning foods ... not bad, i'll make sure to try to incorporate the rest

cheers!

[IntenseAthlete]

Just looked at the links...good stuff... had a laugh at the contagious obesity thing...reminded me of a recent episode of Boston Legal

Also scored 8/15 on fat burning foods ... not bad, i'll make sure to try to incorporate the rest

cheers!

Sorry to jump in with this kind of stupidity, but I saw that episode too......
Shatner kills me,he should be a member here!


Magic,
Great post, My training routine as an athlete has resembled this for years and I always stay pretty lean.The most when I did my morning cardio/empty stomach.
Thanks for the info

[MuscleScience]

Nope...empty stomach!

The time between dinner/last meal and arising creates a pseudo-fasting state within the body. This permits far greater stored fat access due to bloodstream glucose and liver glycogen store depletions. Anything you eat prior to working out, even though digestion takes hours, is still subject to quick bloodstream entry via other routes most notably sublingual.

For example, when awake we don’t routinely go for 8-11 hrs w/o eating. So even when you're very hungry after say 4hrs, and somewhat irritable due to lowered blood glucose levels, the aforementioned mechanism provide near instantaneous remedy. As soon as you begin eating you almost immediately feel better because of these alternate nutrient processing routes. Now this same energy is provided at an even more efficient level after longer deprived overnight sleep, truly making breakfast the most important meal of the day. So in order to take advantage of your body’s depleted state, you don’t want to consume anything other than nutrient free water. This however, excludes calorie free synthetic energy, such Ephedra and its related products which certainly augment AM workouts.

I see what your saying about am cardio and taking advantage of fasting conditions in the body. The body has to get energy from alternate means, what I dont understand is when you say alternate means do you mean from a dietary source or are you talking about gluconeogenesis from stored sources such as triacylglycerides and amino acids. To add to this question your only talking about glucose as a fuel not fatty acids and ketone bodies?

Thanks in advance

[magic32]

O-K-A-Y.

I see what your saying about am cardio and taking advantage of fasting conditions in the body. The body has to get energy from alternate means, what I dont understand is when you say alternate means do you mean from a dietary source or are you talking about gluconeogenesis from stored sources such as triacylglycerides and amino acids.
ALTHOUGH EACH HAS VARIANTS, THERE ARE ONLY FOUR (4) BASIC WAYS FOR THE BODY TO ABSORB NUTRIENTS: DIGESTION, INTRAVENOUSLY, TRANSDERMALLY, AND SUBLINGUALLY. I THINK THE ABOVE POSTS CLEARLY DEPICT SUBLINGUAL AS THE ALTERNATE ROUTE.

To add to this question your only talking about glucose as a fuel not fatty acids and ketone bodies?
THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE ARTICLE ON HUMAN BODY ENERGY MECHANISMS, THE TERM "GLUCOSE" IS OFTEN USED GENERICALLY FOR "READILY AVAILABLE FUEL". THE TOPIC IS ESSENTIALLY "WAYS TO OPTIMIZE FAT BURNING” THAT SPUN OFF INTO A SUBTOPIC OF "EMPTY STOMACH TRAINING". MY COMMENTS WERE EXCLUSIVELY RELATED TO THE LATTER.


Thanks in advance

[reconforce4]

alrite magic, will take ur advice

[MuscleScience]

O-K-A-Y.

Im sorry but I don't see how you could absorb any significant amounts of nutrients via sublingual especially if your talking about any kind of carbs. The body has specific glucose, fructose, galactose, and manose transporters to enter into the portal system via the intestines. Secondly sugars are not lipid soluble so they could not pass across the epithelial tissue in the mucous glands under the tongue. I don't know maybe I am thinking of something different than your talking about. Interested in your answer.

Thanks

[magic32]

I like the way you think...like a scientist!

Im sorry but I don't see how you could absorb any significant amounts of nutrients via sublingual especially if your talking about any kind of carbs...I don't know maybe I am thinking of something different than your talking about. Interested in your answer.

Thanks

You have a valid point, and the cusp of the argument hangs on the word "significant", as in how much are we talking? Because it is such an auxillary route, sublingual absorption is NOT traditionally correlated with eating, but rather the specific holding under tongue for absorption via the sublingual gland.

However, the absorption of vitamins and minerals DOES ALSO occur during eating, and very little is needed to impact a severely depleted bloodstream. The more chewing one does, the more susceptible they become to this mechanism.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE IN THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM VITAMINS AND MINERALS ENTER THE BLOODSTREAM?
"Exactly how much vitamin and mineral absorption takes place in your mouth, however, depends on the form in which these vitamins and minerals are found in your food, how long you chew the food in question, the enzyme contents of your saliva, and other factors. In general, we get relatively little vitamin and mineral absorption in the mouth, but what we do get may be very important."
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=36

Because it was so diligently studied as an alternate route, probably the best illustration of the chewing absorption process can found in the use of nicotine gum.

“Chewing the tablet and keeping the remains in the mouth or concurrent use of acidic beverages or antacids are equivalent to recommended sublingual use during normal oral pH conditions.”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

[darkseed]

hold on damnit.....CLEN.....DNP......TREN...... id love to just start cutting fat with just one first just to see how my body reacts before adding all this other shyt.

[Anaholic]

start with the clen.