My third cycle. What would you change?

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 06:29 AM

Hi there!,

Long time since I posted here last time. I'm 24 years old, 4 years training, 6 ft 1 in, 222lbs, 15%bf. Two cycles made: 1st- 500mg/week test enanthate for 12weeks+30mg/day dbol as kickstart (first 4 weeks). & 1 year 4 months later, my 2nd cycle- 500mg/week sustanon+400mg deca durabolin+30mg/day dbol one more time as kickstart (first 4 weeks). My goal, 202lbs@7%bf... My future diet (basics): 2100kcal/day, 50gr protein per meal, 6 meals a day. My training: 3 exercises per body part, 4 sets of 6-8 reps. 2 bodyparts a day. 6 days per week.

**gixxerboy1** · 12-16-2007, 06:36 AM

first thing is you cant take winny 3x a week should be ed.

**reconforce4** · 12-16-2007, 07:09 AM

i would extend the anavar to 8 or 10 weeks, and i would do a pyramid with primo, start at 400 and increase and then decrease

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

first thing is you cant take winny 3x a week should be ed.

only ED? I thought it could be taken EOD too...

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by reconforce4

i would extend the anavar to 8 or 10 weeks, and i would do a pyramid with primo, start at 400 and increase and then decrease

I don't like much 17aa, 4 or 6 weeks as max IMHO. Maybe should I start winny at week 7th? or extend anavar to week 8?

thnx.

**legobricks** · 12-16-2007, 09:02 AM

ever think about giving tren a try? You may obtain your goal faster, remember to have your diet and cardio spot on if your trying to get that low of BF% Diet and exercise will make up most of your goal bro as from what we've read you already know this. Find some threads on tren and see what you think.

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 09:50 AM

Never tried trenbolone

**legobricks** · 12-16-2007, 09:54 AM

No I havent but i wouldnt post the labs name up....beleive its against the board rules so edit it. Run a search on it...the only tren im familier with is homebrewed from fina pellets. Havent tried it yet but i know what the hell i made and put in it!

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 10:10 AM

Where would you add tren in my cycle? first 6 weeks (or 8) @ 75mg EOD ?

**legobricks** · 12-16-2007, 10:45 AM

Resarch it up bro, everyone says they have good results from doing it ED. you could start off with 75mg ED or even 50mg ED then bump the dose up to 75mg depending on how you react to the sides. first 6-8 weeks i believe is correct, although i think 8 weeks is usually run. Make sure that your starting with TREN ACETATE. This shorter ester is advised to use first because if you cannot handle the sides then its easier to stop versus waiting two weeks for it to get out of your system like tren enanthate.

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 11:36 AM

gotcha. I'll keep searching... thank you.

**shifty_git** · 12-16-2007, 11:40 AM

Some good advice given here!

also break ya hcg up into 500iu shots, think thats what ya meant but was just pointing it out if that wasnt the case.

and tren a does sound like it fits ya goals, you will need far less sus if you go for tren.

**assguy22** · 12-16-2007, 12:34 PM

I've used sustanon in my previous cycle and I think that is less potent than test enanthate, at least for me, that's why I decided to use 750mg/week instead of 500mg of test enanthate.... don't you think that's a good idea?....

I've been reading some doc about tren and it could lead to gyno development due to high prolactin levels so bromocriptine (or dostinex) should be used along tren cycle and PCT (.25-.5mg/day). What do ya think? has anybody used bromocriptine in tren cycles before?

thanx

**shifty_git** · 12-16-2007, 12:39 PM

well if you go for tren a try n get some test prop,

if you can only get the sus guess everyone reacts different to different levels.... so that one is dependant on you, but tren is so powerful most go for hrt or slightly above doses.

id go for caber rather than bromo, some say they get sides with the bromo - worth looking in2.

**EZgainer** · 12-16-2007, 12:51 PM

If I were u i would drop the sust and primo and add prop and tren imo alot better for what u r trying to accomplish...would not add Test E cuz of the water weight even though the winny and clen would help with that I would just stick with prop

also u CAN take winny eod so long it is inject and if never done b4 i think u will b good to start at 100mg eod...if oral take daily

**SNUKA** · 12-16-2007, 05:34 PM

wow, Primo and var....you must have cash...

I would shoot the winny 50mg every day as the others have told you and I would make your PCT stronger.

Bump the nolva to 20mgs a day, the clomid to 100 a day and maybe throw in some aromasin at 25mg a day.

Also I noticed you running PCT 2 weeks after your last sustanon shot. I would move it to 3 weeks because of the test decanoate thats in sustanon.

Var and winny in general, and especially together can kill your cholesterol levels so make sure you keep an eye on that and get blood work done after PCT. Maybe pick Var for 8 weeks or winny for 6 weeks instead of using both? Thats just me though, good luck cycling.

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