Tren VS No sleep

[cache49]

So im gettin real tire, literally, of not sleeping while on tren. There really is no reason to debate trens wonderfull ability to build muscle and burn fat, BUT at what expense. Im about ready to pack'er in here. Im five weeks into my winter bulker and the insomnia and sweats are still gettin worse. A good night of sleep now days is five or six hours. The norm is around 3-4, while waking up every hour or so to stare at the clock. How the f**k is a guy supposed to rest and grow when he cant sleep. It is becoming very taxing, im always feeling run down and extra cranky cause im always tired?? Ive allready seriously looked at axing tren out of my next spring cutter and replace with the lesser 19, deca w/ dex eod for water and bloat. Im runnin 75mg ed Tren Ace with 600mg ew cyp, dbol at 40mg ed for the first 4 wks(done now). For those of you who get bad insomnia, how the hell do you cope, and how much are my gains withheld from no sleep?? Startin to really get on my nerves. Opinions pls and thank you....cheers.

[Bigmax]

Welcome to the world of tren bro...what more can I say...

[bigger]

i feel ya. you wake up in the middle of the night just notice you farted lol..
well i dont know if medicine is allowd to speak of on the bord but sleeping pills might do the trick.
good luck

[kfrost06]

This is one of many reasons why I stay away from tren.

[cache49]

Ya...my doctor is very easy going. Im gonna hit'em up for something to put me out, i wanna atleast get thru the next three weeks and then re-plan my next cutter w/o Tren....shitty deal....and ya, sleepin pills wont touch this. Theyll get me to sleep...for an hour till the first time I wake... otc pills anyhow.

[jojo2002]

hydrocodone?

[Big]

This is one of many reasons why I stay away from tren.

what are some of the other reasons?

[Big]

hydrocodone?

very doubtful a doctor would prescribe a pain killer for a sleep aid.

[godkilla]

welcome to the wonderful world of tren. try lowering your dosage to 50mgs ed and see if that is more comfortable.

[J*U*icEd]

yea hydrocodone.... thats good... lol.... my doc gave me a script for xanax while i was on tren... worked great, and got rid of that nasty stress hormone cortisol...

[cache49]

Is xanax not a anti-anxiety med?? I have access to any type of anti-anxiety or pain killer, but im not sure thats the way I want to go......scratch that, im sure its not the way. A mild sleep med if anything, if not...the tren goes....booooo. Not to mention I just upped the dose for the last three weeks....this is gonna get nasty, hahahaha....

[legobricks]

How many MG's per day or EOD are you running?

[Machin3]

get ambien or lunesta no need for anti anxiety or pain killers

[cache49]

Machin3,...I believe Lunesta is only avail in the US. Im sure we have something similar here....Lego, im running 75mg ed up from 50mg ed for the last three weeks.

[taiboxa]

ambien

[cache49]

Thanx T

[kfrost06]

what are some of the other reasons?

libido, recovery(HPTA), moodiness, night sweats, prolactin, gyno, etc., I know these sides can develop from most gear but the tren seems to be soo much worse for these specifc sides and more.

[taiboxa]

Blame ESTROGEN!

[duramaxedge]

i have had no sleep issues.. I must be lucky.. I just stretch like a mad man.. and sometimes wake up.. and night sweats are bad though.. good luck man.

[duramaxedge]

cache have you thought about NPP and prop for your next? maybe some var for a starter or dbol?

[cache49]

Yes I have but the problem is I have an issue with prop. Im one of the lucky ones who feels like I got hit with a sledgehammer the next morning after an injection, even cut 1;1 with cottonseed im hurtin bad. NPP would be a great substitution but its hard to come by. Ill look a little deeper....thanx. T Enth/Deca/winny...is what Im lookin at for upcoming cutter. Maybe NPP......cheers

[Chuck_R]

I've tried many sleep aids and I like LUNESTA. Go to sleep quick, stay asleep, and when I wake up I don't have any hangover like I get with other sleep meds. Course I've never been on Tren.

[Machin3]

Yes I have but the problem is I have an issue with prop. Im one of the lucky ones who feels like I got hit with a sledgehammer the next morning after an injection, even cut 1;1 with cottonseed im hurtin bad. NPP would be a great substitution but its hard to come by. Ill look a little deeper....thanx. T Enth/Deca/winny...is what Im lookin at for upcoming cutter. Maybe NPP......cheers

cut it with another compound such or use vitamin b 12


ambien works wonders

hope everything works out for you bro

[NATE0406]

Yeah Ambien Does Work Very Well. But It Is A Script And It Cost More Than Its Worth. When I Was On Clen I Had The Same Issues And I Just Took Over The Counter Sleep Aids Like Tylonal Pm And Unisom. They Worked Great. I Would Sugguest Just Trying The Over The Counter First. And Its Cheaper.

[peachfuzz]

ambien works wonders, but as with most sleep aids there is a risk of dependency that should not be overlooked.

[mattosteel]

hey bro just go to the enanthate instead of the acetate. I had no bad side effects from the tren except wanting to rip the walls down in the gym on dosing days

[cache49]

All these suggestions are great......thank you...

[Timm1704]

i ran tren at 400mg EW, along with 200mg deca and 1000mg test E. I never had sleeping problems, the only side effect i noticed was increased body temperature (nothing drastic) and a very mild case of gyno in one nipple, likely from the deca/tren combo, and elevated blood pressure following my cycle, but again, nothing drastic and didnt last long.

I was planning on running the same cycle starting next week, but maybe upping the tren to 600mg weekly, and seeing how the sides compare to before

[Brent_G]

Id just ride it out. After its all over i think it will be worth it. You'll have plenty of time to sleep later

[cache49]

Good luck with that.....hahah..youre a braver man than I, two 19's in one cycle. I can harfly handle one. Keep us posted......

[cache49]

LOL, thats the attitude Brent......I tell myself that when its 3am and im staring at the ceiling sweating....

[Brent_G]

yea gotta do whatever it takes!

[Rotary]

Yeah Ambien Does Work Very Well. But It Is A Script And It Cost More Than Its Worth. When I Was On Clen I Had The Same Issues And I Just Took Over The Counter Sleep Aids Like Tylonal Pm And Unisom. They Worked Great. I Would Sugguest Just Trying The Over The Counter First. And Its Cheaper.

While taking the Tyl PM, How do you feel the next morning ? Hungover at all ?

Last night was my first night that it actually kept me awake. I was absolutely miserable.

[KJSolid]

Rotary, good luck getting up for work in the morning if you are popping tylenol pm.

[Rotary]

Rotary, good luck getting up for work in the morning if you are popping tylenol pm.

That's what I needed to know.

Can someone recommend something that won't ruin the following morning ?

I think I'd rather deal with a sleepy morning than a sleepless night. Seriously, last night was horrible.

[Renesis]

Lol Cache welcome to my world and I am not even on tren!!! Crap I can't imagine the hell ima go through when I start cycling -.-

[Rotary]

What else is everyone using to help sleep while on tren ?

GHB ? Just kidding, a friends once told me to take that because of it's steroid like effects, something about amino acids etc. etc.

Well, the joke was on me.

[godkilla]

What else is everyone using to help sleep while on tren ?

GHB ? Just kidding, a friends once told me to take that because of it's steroid like effects, something about amino acids etc. etc.

Well, the joke was on me.

one of your guy friends told you to take ghb?!

[RBIZZY]

hey bro, try dramamine or however its spelled. its a motion sickness med, it puts me out and quick... if your a real hard sleeper do dramamine with a little nyquill.... im sure you will go out.

[Rotary]

one of your guy friends told you to take ghb?!

Yeah dude, it wasn't funny. They somehow thought they'd pull one over on me.