Beginner for steroids.

[rodzy]

Hey
I've been training ever since I was 15. I'm now 23. Intense training for 3 years. I seem to not get at least 190 lbs. Right now, I'm weighting 170 lbs and I can['t get bigger. I'm 6 feet tall. I use protein, creatine. I have enough sleep. Good diet. Eat alot too at many repitition a day.
My friend used some roids and he gain alot. Now I want to use it but need to have comments from you guys on which steroid I should take. I want to get big ! If I can get more then 190 lbs, even better. I've been studying steroids for 3 months now. I wanna make sure I buy the right one. D-Bol is good, but I've heard you lose it all after. I want something that it will stay. I won't stop training after too. T-400, is that too much for a begginer ?
Can anybody recommend one brand would be better for a first cycle ?

[sitries]

use a single compund like test enanthate for 10weeks then a two week gap followed by a nolvadex pct for a month. thats a bread and butter 1st cycle. kickstart it with dbol if you want the immediate gains in the 1st 2 weeks. but i personally dont se dbol necessary coz i dont like its side effects.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

dbol and test

[KJSolid]

Test for 12-16 weeks with a dbol start for the first 4 weeks. I would keep the dbol relatively low though 25mgs or so.

[rodzy]

I already use testoterone. I found it only gives me energy. I don't wanna brag, but I already have energy. I need something hard. That can make me huge !
D-Bol, will I lose it all ?
If not all, how much % ?

[FREAK]

your still a little on the young side but if u must d- bol and test will give some decent results if u have your diet in check

[jAcKeD!!!!]

I already use testoterone. I found it only gives me energy. I don't wanna brag, but I already have energy. I need something hard. That can make me huge !
D-Bol, will I lose it all ?
If not all, how much % ?

you have already cycled with test and your onlye 6' 170?

you need to get your diet and training in order before doign aas if you want some good gains

[FREAK]

I already use testoterone. I found it only gives me energy. I don't wanna brag, but I already have energy. I need something hard. That can make me huge !
D-Bol, will I lose it all ?
If not all, how much % ?

everyone is differant some will tell u they kept it all some say u lose it all if done properly and the help of a good pct u will keep some gains

[KJSolid]

good point jacked. I am thinking that he hasn't done any test before and maybe afraid to poke himself. He is hoping that we will tell him a dbol alone cycle is the way to go. You will see gains but don't expect to keep them.

[FREAK]

good point jacked. I am thinking that he hasn't done any test before and maybe afraid to poke himself. He is hoping that we will tell him a dbol alone cycle is the way to go. You will see gains but don't expect to keep them.

not true^^^ask ten differant people and you will ten differant answers

[KJSolid]

I may be wrong ramblin freak. I know a few people that have done dbol only cycles, they all put on 20 lbs quickly but then lost 18 of them within a few weeks. Everyone is different though. I have never done a dbol only cycle so I can only speak of what I have seen from others.

[FREAK]

exactly everyone is differant

[jAcKeD!!!!]

overal what is tryin to get accross here is dbol only is not the way to go, simple as that.

rodzy test and dbol is a great simple cycle as long as you diet and training intensity is in order you will see great results.

[FREAK]

agreed^^^^

[KJSolid]

well stated jacked. Good luck Rodzy.

[rodzy]

Thx guys.
I'm am checking my diet right now.
I was before. But only checking my protein and carbs.
I was taking too much and going to the bathroom.
But now, I have a new plan, and it's eating normale but alot of time during the day.
I wait 170 lbs.They say I should eat at least 200 or 200 grams of protein.
I've thought about D-Bol with test.
Now, another quick question guys.
How much d-bol should i take. 25 mg ?
How many weeks ? Should I take what the bottle says. Which I never seen because never buy any.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

25mgsED for 4 weeks.

[FREAK]

weeks 1-4 50mg ed

[Big]

you have already cycled with test and your onlye 6' 170?

you need to get your diet and training in order before doign aas if you want some good gains

exactly^

[rodzy]

4 weeks on and then 4 weeks off ?
After being off, should I start over again. Maybe that way I could keep the gain ?
And what about t-400 ? Is that too much for a beginner ?
I know this guy who done it, and kept at least 90 %. And that's like 6-7 months from now.
But he must be hiding something from me ! People tend too over exagerate somethime. haha

[jAcKeD!!!!]

weeks 1-4 50mg ed

is what dose you or i wuold use.

25mgED is what i think he should focus on considering exp and his weight , i want him to focus on trying harder and eating better before upping all his doses thinkin the more the better

[dublin33]

Ya I'd like to hear an answer on this t400 as well as I have a bottle of it sitting here. I've never done any serious cycling just a couple of small cycles with anadrol and dbol(I do realize that they are the most powerful oral).

[rodzy]

D-BOL WITH winstrol or
d-bol with Nolvadex
d-bol sustanon
d-bol with Testosterone Enanthate ???
I don't want no bitch tits !

[KJSolid]

im with jacked. This is a first cycle I think that 50 mgs may be too much. You would just do your first 4 weeks on and then stop the dbol and continue the test for 12 weeks or so.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

rodzy

weeks1-4dbol@25mgsED
weeks1-12testE@500mgs/week

can u get your hands on pct?

[rabidsquirrel]

^^^^ this is good my first time with dbol i went 25mg ed and that was great. first time with test only at 250mg a week i gained damn near 30 pounds

[bearpaw992000]

I don't know about U guys but something is wrong with this post!!!! First U say "Now I want to use it but need to have comments from you guys on which steroid I should take." then in the next statment U say "I already use testoterone." then in the next statment UR asking should I take "d-bol with Nolvadex" for UR cycle. UR asking 4 weeks on 4 off don't understand that. And then UR asking about the D-Bol "How much d-bol should i take. 25 mg ?
How many weeks ? Should I take what the bottle says." Mine doesn't come in a bottle and doesn't give a dosage on it 25mg is way low. Let me ask U this do U know what U R taking? is it real or is it fake or want to be roids?

[Big]

I agree bearpaw, I've never seen a bottle of dbol with instructions on it. And the poster says he tried testosterone and it only gave him energy? wtf? I don't think he knows what he is taking, and I seriously doubt it's real gear.

[redz]

They say I should eat at least 200 or 200 grams of protein.

That is way too low, I am eating 500g per day right now on cycle. It is hard but you must eat, eat and eat to gain. On a side note I would just like to mention Dbol has incredible strength gains which I am alreayd feeling 4 days in. They are a great kick start while I wait for my Test E to kick in.

[bearpaw992000]

I agree bearpaw, I've never seen a bottle of dbol with instructions on it. And the poster says he tried testosterone and it only gave him energy? wtf? I don't think he knows what he is taking, and I seriously doubt it's real gear.

Yeah that is what I thought. I'm thinking he is getting stuff that he thinks is real and is not.

[Amorphic]

I agree bearpaw, I've never seen a bottle of dbol with instructions on it. And the poster says he tried testosterone and it only gave him energy? wtf? I don't think he knows what he is taking, and I seriously doubt it's real gear.

sounds like a supplement to me

[Big]

sounds like a supplement to me

agreed^
"steroid alternatives"

[Big]

I already use testoterone. I found it only gives me energy.

could you describe specifically the testosterone you took?

[rodzy]

Yeah,
Testerone (hypertext)
It's not a steroid. It's almost like T3. U know ! Mass cycle. I've bought it at Popeye in Quebec.
And by the way, How should I know what's on the bottle or 4 weeks on or 4 weeks off. I think it's 4 weeks on d-bol then some kind of test ?? You must read everything I say. I've wrote also that I've never bought steroids. How would I know. I'm just figuring how it works. That's why I'm asking the questions !!! No ?

So don't say that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing. I'm asking questions before buying or doing steroids. !! haha

[Big]

haha indeed.
2 people recommended test, then in post #5 you said you already did test and it only gave you energy and turned the questions back to dbol. You have never done test. You've done some kind of supplements. Slow down and do some research based on the comments you've already received.

[dupa95]

Hey
I've been training ever since I was 15. I'm now 23. Intense training for 3 years. I seem to not get at least 190 lbs. Right now, I'm weighting 170 lbs and I can['t get bigger. I'm 6 feet tall. I use protein, creatine. I have enough sleep. Good diet. Eat alot too at many repitition a day.
My friend used some roids and he gain alot. Now I want to use it but need to have comments from you guys on which steroid I should take. I want to get big ! If I can get more then 190 lbs, even better. I've been studying steroids for 3 months now. I wanna make sure I buy the right one. D-Bol is good, but I've heard you lose it all after. I want something that it will stay. I won't stop training after too. T-400, is that too much for a begginer ?
Can anybody recommend one brand would be better for a first cycle ?

I've been studying steroids for 3 months now. So you have about ten more months of reading and reserchin to go happy reading it's all here use the serch button.

[Njord]

That is way too low, I am eating 500g per day right now on cycle. It is hard but you must eat, eat and eat to gain. On a side note I would just like to mention Dbol has incredible strength gains which I am alreayd feeling 4 days in. They are a great kick start while I wait for my Test E to kick in.

He's 170 lbs, I doubt he needs 500gr of protein!

[Amorphic]

I've been studying steroids for 3 months now. So you have about ten more months of reading and reserchin to go happy reading it's all here use the serch button.

if only all new members did the same

[EZgainer]

Yeah,
Testerone (hypertext)
It's not a steroid. It's almost like T3. U know ! Mass cycle. I've bought it at Popeye in Quebec.
And by the way, How should I know what's on the bottle or 4 weeks on or 4 weeks off. I think it's 4 weeks on d-bol then some kind of test ?? You must read everything I say. I've wrote also that I've never bought steroids. How would I know. I'm just figuring how it works. That's why I'm asking the questions !!! No ?

So don't say that I don't know what I'm doing. I know exactly what I'm doing. I'm asking questions before buying or doing steroids. !! haha

I buy chicken at Popeyes where I am from......not test huh? like T3!? u know Mass cycle?