next cutting cycle what you bro's think

[juicenchris2989]

T-bol or anavar 50mgs ed wks 1-8
deca 300/wk 1-10
winstrol 50mgs ed wks 7-12
test prop 75mgs ed wk 1-12
masteron 75mgs ed wk 1-10

I kno deca really shouldn't be in there but im thowing it in just to help out with my joint pain. By the way this is my 4th cycle been training for 3 yrs stats 6'2 230lbs body fat not sure but shouldn't be higher than 13% any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated

[juicenchris2989]

Anyone?

[STED]

If its a cutting cycle you want then id stick to the winnie and masteron, maybe throw in some clen aswell. But im unsure about the doasges really.

[Njord]

No need for two dht's, I'd pick one or the other

[Njord]

If its a cutting cycle you want then id stick to the winnie and masteron, maybe throw in some clen aswell. But im unsure about the doasges really.

What are you suggesting here? Run winnie and masteron? If you don't know what you are talking about then don't give cycle advice.

[juicenchris2989]

njord or anyone else what you bro's think about the cycle i got in mind still got some time b4 i start it about one month i can get my hands on about anything and money aint a problem what do you think about the dosage think its over kill ?

[juicenchris2989]

btw STED not to be rude or sound like a d**k but i think you should read up a little more on cycles and ass b-cuz anyone that knows anything about ass knows that masteron and winnie alone is not a real cycle sorry bro read a lil more but thanks for atleast replying

[mx3]

If your running the deca for joints I would run it at 150-200mg wk. . imo if you want to run mast and winni extend it 14wks. run the mast for 1-8 50mg ed. winni 8-14 50mg ed, prop 1-14 or you could run the mast a little shorter and shorten cycle. mo

[Johny-too-small]

Why so many anabolics? None of them will make you anymore shredded. Pick test and one other and fix your diet and cardio.

[juicenchris2989]

thanks im really trying to stay within 12 wks but you are right running both dhts at the same time probally wouldnt be the best of ideas what you guys think if i just leave out the winni and run the masteron at a higher dose anyone out there that has ran a cycle similar to my cycle ?

[cache49]

loose the deca and the tbol. Run var 4 weeks kicker, finish with winny. Test throughout and ???mast??? your choice.....good luck

[mx3]

up your anavar dose and drop to 6wks, drop the winnie. keep the mast where its at but run it wk4-12, up the dose later if you feel the need. this is what I would do If winnie were to be taken out and cycle length was kept the same.

[cache49]

Why so many anabolics? None of them will make you anymore shredded. Pick test and one other and fix your diet and cardio.

Agreed^^^

[mx3]

loose the deca and the tbol. Run var 4 weeks kicker, finish with winny. Test throughout and ???mast??? your choice.....good luck

hes only running the deca for joints thats why I suggested dropping to 150-200mg wk.

[juicenchris2989]

k so im going to drop the tbol what if i just lower the dose to about 150 on the deca i got a semi ****ed up rotator cup and alot of joint pain on one arm my last cycle i through it in there and it helped alot thinking that this time it will go completly away as for the anavar wk 1-4 80mgs ed?

[KeepingItBalanced]

Why not go with NPP, since you are using all short esters anyway. And it might help keep some bloat down. Well I assume the Masteron is the prop version (most availible)

[juicenchris2989]

anavar 80mgs ed wk 1-4 ?
deca 150wk wk 1-10
test prop 75mgs ed wk 1-12
masteron 75mgs ed wk 1-10

what you guys think about this shorten the anavar up the dose lowered the deca and threw out the winni

[juicenchris2989]

yes its the prop version

[Johny-too-small]

anavar 80mgs ed wk 1-4 ?
deca 150wk wk 1-10
test prop 75mgs ed wk 1-12
masteron 75mgs ed wk 1-10

what you guys think about this shorten the anavar up the dose lowered the deca and threw out the winni

Much better looking cycle. Run the Var 8 weeks though @ 80 mg/ed.

[juicenchris2989]

thanks johny what you think about my dosage with the prop and masteron my last cycle i was running prop eod at 100mgs a shot but looking for better gains this time around

[mx3]

imo opinion mast doesn't need to be run for more than 8wks and you can run it right til the end. but you may see many opinions on this. I would run the var 6 wks but again mo. 80-100mgs of var. and the deca should be run at the minimum dose so you are achieving the desired joint lubrication that could be anywhere from 100 -200mg I would play with it and see what works best for you.

[Johny-too-small]

thanks johny what you think about my dosage with the prop and masteron my last cycle i was running prop eod at 100mgs a shot but looking for better gains this time around

looks good, you can always go higher on the doses...and I would around week 7-8.

[juicenchris2989]

wait sorry johny i got confused with mx3 what are you sayign i can higher my dose on

[Johny-too-small]

I edited my last post for you

[juicenchris2989]

so i should up to what 100mgs ed on both around wk 7 or 8 ?

[green22]

Looks to me like you making it way to complicated. How bout prop and winny or prop and var. Diet and cardio are the most important. All those compounds are not nessesary. Just keep it simple.

[juicenchris2989]

its really one 3 aas well 4 but the deca is just to help me with my joints i thought about npp but not to sure. I ran a prop cycle with winni and didnt like it all that much thought i could have gotten better results if i would have added something more to it. My diet is in check right now im at about 3500cals a day when im on cycle i usally up it to 4000

[cache49]

hes only running the deca for joints thats why I suggested dropping to 150-200mg wk.

Everyone reacts differently, i know this....but in my experience to run deca at that low a dose would be a waste. I have ran it with no result at that dose. Im a firm believer in keepin it simple, for the most part...not steppin on toes bro... JMO

[juicenchris2989]

it is a waste but it helps with my joints i dont mind wasting the money for my joints and i appreciate everyones input on this

[The Deuce]

anavar 80mgs ed wk 1-4 ?
deca 150wk wk 1-10
test prop 75mgs ed wk 1-12
masteron 75mgs ed wk 1-10

Is this the cycle you decided to go with bro??? And if so what's your PCT look like for it?

I'm running the identical same one ... except two weeks shorter on everything and 25mgs less on the mast and test... and well im using NPP to for joints.. ok so I guess it isn't the same cycle but pretty darn close.

Just curious on what u decided for PCT...

[juicenchris2989]

ya same cycle but i might sub out the var for some tbol not sure yet and im dropping the test to 50mgs ed. i cant get my hands on some NPP right now so unless i find some by the end of the month im stuck with just deca. UMM for pct not sure yet probally the AR recommended pct but without the nova i was gonna ask what some other ppl thought

[The Deuce]

Yah let's ask !!! Hahaha or well you can and I will read...

[duramaxedge]

Woah.. where to start..

Bro.. Why run the Deca so low? 150mg a wk is pointless? (joint pain as you said?)

Cycle Experience??? (and I dont mean.. this is my 4th cycle.. what were your other cycles and how much of each did you take.. and durations?)..

Dont run winny and masteron..

Test good, Masteron= DHT good, Deca= 19-nor good, and then the anavar I believe is a 17-a..

Why not just run the Deca in Phenylpropianate ester??

Test P- 1-8 75mg Ed (could probably back the test down to 50mg Ed as well)
Masteron- 1-8 50mg Ed
NPP- 1-8 50mg Ed
Var- 1-8 50mg Ed

PCT Wk 10...

This is what I would do.. I wouldnt run any of this longer then 8wks.. and I think you could get by with shorter even??

**Might want to run the test out a wk longer then the NPP.. The esters are close.. Someone else can chime in and correct if needed.. Or you could back the NPP down a wk.. (correct me if needed)

[juicenchris2989]

u are right but didnt read all the post i changed the cycle read the last 2 or 3 post thats the new cycle

[juicenchris2989]

deuce i made a new thread asking for some advice on the pct keep an eye lol