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    Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law

    About damn time that we start enforcing our laws........
    Arizona firms brace for immigration sanctions law
    PHOENIX (Reuters) - Arizona steel fabricator Sheridan Bailey has been laying off employees in recent weeks even though he has plenty of orders on the books.

    His firm, Ironco Enterprises, shed around 10 percent of its 100-strong workforce to get in line with a state law going into effect on Tuesday that targets employers who hire illegal immigrants.

    "We have let some people go who we came to know were not properly documented. So in that respect the law is already doing what the framers expected," he said.

    The maker of steel frames for buildings is among an estimated 150,000 businesses across the desert state preparing for the measure that places Arizona at the vanguard of more than 100 U.S. states and municipalities taking on immigration enforcement.

    The law, passed days after a federal immigration overhaul died in the U.S. Senate in June, punishes first-time violators who knowingly hire undocumented workers with a 10-day suspension of their business licenses.

    A second offense means they lose it.

    The measure also requires employers to use an online federal database, dubbed "E-Verify," to check the employment eligibility of new hires in the border state, which is home to an estimated 500,000 illegal immigrants.

    Many employers like Bailey say they are pruning their workforce of illegal immigrants to avoid prosecution, or have outsourced some operations to neighboring states and even over the border to Mexico.

    Other businesses have put a freeze on expansion in Arizona out of fear they will face prosecution should they inadvertently hire an illegal immigrant.

    "It is too much of a risk for us," said Jason LeVecke, a franchise owner who operates a chain of 57 Carl's Jr. hamburger restaurants in the state.

    He plans to expand in Texas.

    BUSINESS 'DEATH PENALTY'

    Immigration is the subject of a rancorous debate in the United States, where an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants live and work in the shadows.

    The topic comes up frequently among Republican and Democratic hopefuls fighting to be their party's candidate in the November 2008 presidential election.

    The politicians must tread a fine line between appeasing anti-immigration sentiment and trying not to anger Hispanics, who make up the fastest-growing voter bloc in the nation.

    Many Arizonans support the new law. They say it takes away the lure of jobs for illegal immigrants and clamps down on employers unfairly profiting from cheap migrant labor.

    "The only people who should be nervous are employers who hire illegals at cheap rates to gain unfair advantage over their competitors. They should be worrying a lot," said John Kavanagh, a Republican state lawmaker who co-sponsored the bill.

    Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat, signed the measure into law despite voicing concern that it was a business "death penalty."

    A coalition of business groups filed suit to block the measure, arguing that it will be harmful to local businesses. A U.S. District Court threw out the challenge earlier this month, but a new suit has since been filed.

    Lawyers opposed to the employer sanctions law say that it is unconstitutional and is open to abuse by people making malicious anonymous complaints. They warn that it will also make Arizona less competitive nationally.

    "(Already) we have had businesses shut down, businesses that will not go ahead with acquisitions. It is going to get worse before it gets better," said Julie Pace, one of the lawyers bringing the employers' suit.

    "Arizona will get bypassed economically. We will be known as tough but stupid from an economic perspective," she said.

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    We already have the Nafta agreement in place to promote Mexican manufacturing. Now the US employers feel they cheaper wages to be able to compete with that. Until we re-look at our Nafta agreements I highly doubt this will change. I work in the automotive sector and see more and more programs being sourced out of there due to mexico's low labor rates. This trend is not going to end and the US manufacturers will have no other repurcussion then to continue searching for ways to counteract that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longball View Post
    We already have the Nafta agreement in place to promote Mexican manufacturing. Now the US employers feel they cheaper wages to be able to compete with that. Until we re-look at our Nafta agreements I highly doubt this will change. I work in the automotive sector and see more and more programs being sourced out of there due to mexico's low labor rates. This trend is not going to end and the US manufacturers will have no other repurcussion then to continue searching for ways to counteract that.
    When John Deere moves plants to Mexico, you know that there is an issue. NAFTA should have never been signed. It is no coincidence that big manufactururing jobs left the US just after NAFTA was signed. Wanna point a finger at the cause of the decline of the middle class in the US, look at NAFTA and the people who signed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    When John Deere moves plants to Mexico, you know that there is an issue. NAFTA should have never been signed. It is no coincidence that big manufactururing jobs left the US just after NAFTA was signed. Wanna point a finger at the cause of the decline of the middle class in the US, look at NAFTA and the people who signed it.
    I agree completely, the US fostered a middle class that got acclimated to living a lifestyle that they probably should have not had.(high automotive wages) For the most part they had low appreciable skills. Due to Nafta (and a few other contributing factors) Automotive manufacturing plants are being shut down across the country and we now have an influx of workers who do not possess the skill set to make the transistion to another occupation within the same pay range. The "middle class" society, at least those that the automotve sector made up, are dwindling as families strive to pay the bills they have accumulated on wages that are now, for the most part 30-50% lower than original.

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    That bill really targets the problem in the wrong way. The only way to reduce the problem is to one, opt out of the NAFTA agreement, Two, is to pull all those troops from the middle east and let them sit on the american-mexican border, and Three, to actually start rounding up and deporting those illegals residing within the country illegally once the border security has been tightened. These people have no right to live here, they entered illegally, and they should be sent back to their country of origin immediately.

    You cannot talk about strict measures to ensure American safety and "fight the war on terrorism," and then intentionally leave the back door to the country completely wide open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post

    You cannot talk about strict measures to ensure American safety and "fight the war on terrorism," and then intentionally leave the back door to the country completely wide open.
    It totally defies all reason. At times it feels as though we are living in the twilight zone..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13 View Post
    It totally defies all reason. At times it feels as though we are living in the twilight zone..........
    Lol........ I thought we elected these people to act in our interests on our behalf?? Instead they seem to be dictating things to us....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Lol........ I thought we elected these people to act in our interests on our behalf?? Instead they seem to be dictating things to us....
    The US Gov't was not created to legislate behavior.

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