Deca/Test/Dbol Cycle Help...

[tigermania]

I posted a thread like this last week. Been lifting over 15 years, tried a couple cycles without PCT due to ignorance on the PCT subject. I have Test e 200/cc and Deca 200/cc, along with dbol 50mg/tab. Couple of questions I have. I also have test cyp250/cc. What would be the difference if I did the test cyp instead of the test e with this cycle. I plan on

Wk1-4 50 mg dbol
wk 1-12 wither the test e (400/wk) or the test cyp ( 500/wk)
wki-10 Deca 400mg/wk.

Last question,I've asked a few times on here regarding pct, some say to run HCG during this cycle and not after. What are the advantages/disadvantages to doing this. I also have clomid for my pct. Would any of you do the HCG?clomid after the cycle, or HCG during, and clomid after the cycle. Thanks in advance. How would any of you handle the pct with this cycle or handle the cycle differently.

[dupa95]

you will need the hcg for that cycle the deca will shut you down hard therefore you need to kick start your nuts fast as posible to keep you gains.That is the hcg for pct.

[tigermania]

you will need the hcg for that cycle the deca will shut you down hard therefore you need to kick start your nuts fast as posible to keep you gains.That is the hcg for pct.

Thanks for the reply, so that is why you would cycle the HCG during this cycle(due to the Deca)? Would you also do the HCG 2 weeks after the cycle as well? Would you dose the HCG during at 50 IU/wk?? Also. since I will be doing the HCG during the cycle, will the Clomid suffice for PCT afterwards?

[rampage12]

i would advise running some type of AI in your pct and would advise nolva been told its wonderful with deca

[dupa95]

Thanks for the reply, so that is why you would cycle the HCG during this cycle(due to the Deca)? Would you also do the HCG 2 weeks after the cycle as well? Would you dose the HCG during at 50 IU/wk?? Also. since I will be doing the HCG during the cycle, will the Clomid suffice for PCT afterwards?

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[dupa95]

Hold on the mercanator is on his way

[tigermania]

i would advise running some type of AI in your pct and would advise nolva been told its wonderful with deca

Thanks,

Well, looked into an Arimidex(but real expensive). I'm not one that has suffered with GYNO. Hope I don't this time. So let me get this straight. Probably best to do 500IU/week HCG during this cycle and not afterwards, and you would recommend Novaldex afterwards. All I have on hand is Clomid(along with HCG). Will that suffice?? I do have the liquid Novaldex. Not sure if it is real or not.

[dupa95]

Thanks,

Well, looked into an Arimidex(but real expensive). I'm not one that has suffered with GYNO. Hope I don't this time. So let me get this straight. Probably best to do 500IU/week HCG during this cycle and not afterwards, and you would recommend Noaldes afterwards. All I have on hand is Clomid(along with HCG). Will that suffice?? I do have the liquid Novaldex. Not sure if it is real or not.

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[rampage12]

i was told to take aromasin and nolva togeather for pct when taking deca they work well togeather

[tigermania]

Hold on the mercanator is on his way

What or who is the mercantor??? You got me there bro, and what do you think of my pct?? I will try the liquidex from the site.

[tigermania]

i was told to take aromasin and nolva togeather for pct when taking deca they work well togeather

Wow, I've read about the PCT on the PCT forum, and other post/threads, and thouroughly confused myself. I was under the impression that the HCG and Clomid would be good for this cycle. So What exactly should I do for PCT for this cycle. Like I said, I have HCG,Clomid, and liquid Tamoxifen available??

[tigermania]

Anyone out there with correct PCT advice on this cycle. I'm starting to think there are many different ways to do pct on this cycle.

[KJSolid]

I am no expert on PCT and often have questions of my own. What I think is correct would be to run hcg though the cycle. Then finish with the nolvadex (serm) and an ai like aromasin. Just my thoughts, please wait for more advise as to whether this is correct or not. I do know that using deca in your cycle, pct is extremely important.

[juicenchris2989]

look at AR'S pct protocol

[tigermania]

I am no expert on PCT and often have questions of my own. What I think is correct would be to run hcg though the cycle. Then finish with the nolvadex (serm) and an ai like aromasin. Just my thoughts, please wait for more advise as to whether this is correct or not. I do know that using deca in your cycle, pct is extremely important.

I have clomid, is that the wrong PCT? Can that substitute for Nolvadex?? If I run HCG during the cycle, do I run it afterwrrds too? Is the liquid stuff you can get for PCT on this site really good??

[tigermania]

look at AR'S pct protocol

Read that along with other PCT protocols. I'm confused on the correct PCT, Looking for all the info I can from people with experience on this matter. Thanks

[getfit28]

Read that along with other PCT protocols. I'm confused on the correct PCT, Looking for all the info I can from people with experience on this matter. Thanks

Tigermania, I'm getting ready to run the same exact cycle your going to & I was told HCG is not needed for this cycle. All that would be needed is Aromasin, novaldex & caber if necessary but I will also be running letro during cycle since prone to gyno.... I never really understood how or with what cycle HCG should be run with so I'm looking forward into a vet to jump in & give us their opinion...

[tigermania]

Tigermania, I'm getting ready to run the same exact cycle your going to & I was told HCG is not needed for this cycle. All that would be needed is Aromasin, novaldex & caber if necessary but I will also be running letro during cycle since prone to gyno.... I never really understood how or with what cycle HCG should be run with so I'm looking forward into a vet to jump in & give us their opinion...

Same here, I have clomid and HCG on hand for pct, I thought that was all I needed. Now, I hear I need Novaldex, and arimidex?? Can't I substitute clomid for Novaldex?? Should I just run hcg during the cycle not afterwards, and take my clomid after the cycle. Is the liguid pct you can get from this site good?? Help!!!!

[getfit28]

Same here, I have clomid and HCG on hand for pct, I thought that was all I needed. Now, I hear I need Novaldex, and arimidex?? Can't I substitute clomid for Novaldex?? Should I just run hcg during the cycle not afterwards, and take my clomid after the cycle. Is the liguid pct you can get from this site good?? Help!!!!

From what I've seen & heard more of is that you should run Noval better as a pct for deca not clomid but I'm on my third cycle so I still have allot more to learn from more experienced people... I'm personally going to run noval.