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Thread: Training to keep gains and stay hard

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    Training to keep gains and stay hard

    I just finished my bulking cycle and I am curently at 220lb at about 13%bf. I am also on trt from my doctor @200mg every two weeks so no pct. I am trying to cut down over 21 weeks a pound a week starting monday. I am also trying to have my first child. So my delima is, Is there anything else over the counter that would make me look hard along with my trt and helping keep my muscle? If not I was think about just doing winstrol about 10weeks out. Does anyone know the effect winstrol has on your sperm count? I have heard alot about the over the counter Finadrol. Has anyone tried that. I know these are lot of questions but you guys are always great about your answers. thanks

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    errr im no doc but why bother with the juice at all for a while if your having sperm "issues". if your getting test therapy then your obviously wanting to prioritize the baby problem then come back to the juice after its sorted, at 220 your prob not goin to lose too much size with the trt naway.good luck!!

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    What was your cycle?

    -- as far as the sperm thing goes.....
    Lower dose TEST is being tested as a male contraceptive...
    just enough to shut u down completely.

    Someone posted an article, citing Palumbo off all people i believe as the source.. that Sperm production increases on Really high doses of TEST..

    I dont believe there have been any scientific studies on this theory..
    but it goes something like this..

    Exogenous Testosterone, does not form in your ball sacks obviously.. Its injected IM.. and it enters the blood stream.. eventually it will travel down to your nuts.. and when it gets down to your nuts.. it will stimulate sperm production.. unfortunately supposedly after traveling all that distance it is not very effective at stimulating sperm count..

    Apparently natural test production which happens right there in the balls, and than travels the body in the blood stream is a lot more effective at stimulating production..

    now according to this theory..a high dose of test i'm guessing 1000mg+ or so.. should be potent enought to travel around your blood stream, that when it reaches your balls it still has the potency to create a lot of sperm too...

    of course the longer your are on cycle, the more TEST will bind to SHGB and your body will develop ressistance to it..

    so at some point I think it would not be effective enought anymore.. but by than your cycle would be over anyways.. and u'd go back to your impotent type self... in which case your best bets to father a child would be when you're on a heavy test cycle.

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    good read, thanks for the info.

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