New Here- Looking for advice

[overnightworker21]

I have read ALOT of the stickies and read the one "All you need to know about gyno" which is where one of my questions is going to point to...gyno.

I am 23yrs old, 5'11 at 170lbs and 12.5% BF before I decided to start my first cycle.
I fell my nipples have always been slightly puffy, which bothers me but not enough to really care about. It just how they are. Anyway..

I researched and researched and talked to friends who have done multiple cycles and decided a good starting cycle for me would be, test cypionate and deca stacked. I am injecting once a week cypionate at 375mg and deca at 300mg. I started on the 5th this month so I just did my second injection on saturday. I have nolvadex on hand but have not used it and yesterday noticed my nipples where feeling a little weird mostly only when cold, like when I get out of the shower. Is this the start of gyno? Should I start on the nolvadex and order some Letro or is nolvadex fine? Also a friend suggested I knock down the dosages on the injections to half a cc each for about 2 weeks then go back to 1 cc each. What do you guys think. Thank you for any and all help.

[10nispro]

First of, Welcome to AR...

Before you started this cycle you should have researched on this board for a while to learn that you need to hit the diet forum to find a good bulking diet. At 5'11 and 170 you need to eat and work out hard to get to where you need AAS. You have lots of natural test floating around and you should utilize it before going to the dark side. Now, who ever the friends were that helped you, go find them and slap the s*** out of them for telling you that cycle. Your first cycle should have just been the cyp alone. You don't even know how your body is going to react to aas. If you have sides you want know which is causing it. Also, each of those compounds need to be shot twice a week and not once a week. How long are you planning to run this cycle and do you have a pct planned? Since you started you have a few choices, imo. You could stop the deca and just run the test at 500mg/wk, 2 injections every 3.5 days. Stop you cycle completely, do a pct, and work on research before starting your next cycle. And last but not least, STOP listening to those friends. I will let someone else chime in on the gyno. Never had it so I don't want to give you wrong advise.

[10nispro]

From what I was reading, the deca is probably the culprit for the gyno. Don't use the nolva and try either letro or arimidex. You can get either from the board sponsor(the one blinking in right hand corner on top).

[longhorn814]

deca can generate gyno through the progesterone pathway which is totally different than gyno from test aromatizing to estrogren..this is exactly why you dont stack for your first cycle and run test only..now you dont know what could be causing it..if its caused by deca, nolva can make it worse..i think you should do your own research instead of listening to what other people think they know..

[green22]

its probably just in your mind. those are pretty low doses there so i doubt its gyno. but who knows??? Ive heard of some weird stuff here.

[overnightworker21]

I figured those where low doses and I got the stack from http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle2.php except Im not using d-bol. So in popular opinion I should probably just cut deca out of the mix, get some letro and see what happens? I tried doing my own research and did for about 7months before I finally decided to jump into this world so I can get where I want faster. And I didnt find anything about not stacking on the first cycle. But I was not a member of any forums untill, well today.

[overnightworker21]

Thanks for all yalls advise!! Ok, so I ordered some Letro, and am going to start it as soon as it gets here, using the reversing gyno sticky on the board. Should I stop my cycle completly, continue at the same doses, or drop dosage, or as your suggested 10nispro drop the deca and increase the test to 500mg? I would like to come off with little to no permanent side effects. I thought I was pretty well researched but I guess untill you dive in, you really don't know what your in for.

[10nispro]

If you feel like you are not ready, just do a pct and you can find that in the pct forum. I like anthony roberts but you can make you on judgement on that. Personnally I would just drop the deca, start the letro(reverse the gyno), and continue the test at 500mg/wk. There are lots of threads where bro's have reversed their gyno while continuing their cycle and been very happy. Side effects are usually reversed after the cycle stops but there are no guarantees. Not trying to scare you but just letting you aware. I learn lots everyday from those I consider gods on this board. Even the short time I have been here, I have seen many posts from others that have been on other boards and they praise this site. Remember, you are in no hurry and erroring in the right is always best. Good Luck and if you have any questions, research then ask questions. I'll look for you.

[overnightworker21]

Thanks 10nispro! I think I am going to drop the deca for this cycle and just run the test. Do I need to do anything special to drop it with out causing me any harm or do I just not inject it from now on? I suppose that is all right?

[seattleironpumper]

I am also pretty new to this sight been here for about one month and still have not started my first cycle, all though i have used in the past , it pays to keep learning here lots of great people to help you in the right direction!!!!!

[overnightworker21]

ttt... Wondering if I just stop injecting the Deca or do I need to lower gradually since Im dropping it from my cycle? Also how long does it stay good for? Should I just throw that $$$ out or can I save it for use with a cycle down the road? (Which obviously will be a long time.)

[10nispro]

Just stop the deca, but don't throw it out. You might be able to use it later. I don't see the need to do anything, just treat your gyno. If you aren't sure about continuing the cycle, just start a pct and do some research. I think you will do ok, as long as run watch everything, listen to your body, and ask questions.

[overnightworker21]

Thanks

[overnightworker21]

Sorry...Nevermind...I figured out the answer to my question.....

[overnightworker21]

Well I dropped the deca about 1-1 1/2 weeks ago and have been taking Letro at 2.50mg for 3 days now (the Letro at 2.50mg). My nipples are no longer sore and have gotten back to where I think(maybe my mind playing tricks on me) they where to begin with.
Anyway after I dropped the Deca before starting Letro my nipple soreness began to go away. But the puffiness I swore was there (but no one else saw) did not start leaving untill the Letro.

Maybe the Deca was the cause of my gyno since the symptoms started going away soon after discontinuing?

[SlammiN]

i'm keeping a couple of my decas from this cycle to ease my joints in my next. you might as well save yours for something like that too