Thoughts/Experiences with NPP

[Amorphic]

Hey everyone,

I am still considering options for my cycle, i just ordered my prop and will be either stacking with tren ace or npp.

Who has experience with npp and what was your dosing protocol as well as gains etc?

I've heard good things about it, mainly dryer gains than deca and quicker recovery into pct, so i'm a little curious to hear any feedback from anyone thats used it.

thanks boys

[Amorphic]

BTW i was thinking something along the lines of 75mg/ed for the NPP if i was including it.

[Johny-too-small]

I ran NPP last year @ 100 mg/eod and I should have ran it higher, like 500-700 mg/ew.

I really did like the gains and I had no issues w/ recovery. I'll run it again if I ever decide to run it with my love: tren. haha

[solidA]

npp
nandrolone propoinate ?

[Johny-too-small]

npp
nandrolone propoinate ?

Phenylpropionate

[J*U*icEd]

nandrolone phynelpropinate, solidA... but back to your question.... i absolutly love NPP.. it is my all time favorite steroid besides of course test... gains were amazing (deca-like), with less bloating, and the great thing about it is the short half-life... i only use short acting esters and when i found NPP i was pleased beyond pleased... b/c i loved deca when i used it but i hate waiting around for the gear to kick in and waiting to start PCT... definatly my favorite thing to add with prop... i like it better then fina!

[J*U*icEd]

i wish they made a fast acting EQ... when i used eq i loved the results as well, but still like NPP(and deca) results much more

[PEWN]

npp is great for short burst cycles..... but i still prefer deca if im going to run a long cycle....

npp puts weight on quick if diet is right .... .

[Amorphic]

lol, well this certainly hasnt made it any easier to choose.

im leaning a bit towards npp due to the harshness of trens sides but i'll still leave it open to hearing what others have to say.

[J*U*icEd]

lol, well this certainly hasnt made it any easier to choose.

im leaning a bit towards npp due to the harshness of trens sides but i'll still leave it open to hearing what others have to say.

i had no sides at all with NPP... none what so ever... now fina on the other hand, i had a plether of problems with... insomnia, excessive persperation, mood swings, hair loss (not much but accelerate hairloss), never happend to me but i hear the fina cough is unbearable... so u decide.. lol

[IntenseAthlete]

lol, well this certainly hasnt made it any easier to choose.

im leaning a bit towards npp due to the harshness of trens sides but i'll still leave it open to hearing what others have to say.

npp/prop!! Morph its your first, keep it simple and go with less sides even if results are not as great.You are already going to have great results.So make it a fun cycle............Sides suck!

aka Jonny*******

[J*U*icEd]

npp/prop!! Morph its your first, keep it simple and go with less sides even if results are not as great.You are already going to have great results.So make it a fun cycle............Sides suck!

aka Jonny*******

what do you mean even if the results aren't as great... NPP is the same thing as deca but with a shorter ester... so if deca sounds good and gives great results why wouldn't NPP...

[Amorphic]

I think you may have helped me settle this one J*U*icEd.

one last question, is 8 weeks sufficient for npp or is it best to be run 10 weeks to get the most out of it.

I'm assuming due to the fast acting ester that i could run it for 8 and the prop 10?

So a sample outline would be:

1-8 NPP 75mgs/ed? or 100?
1-10 test prop 75mg/ed

thoughts?

[solidA]

what would the optimal pct for a cycle (stated post above me ) be ?
and could one do anavar for week 1-8 at 100mg /day ?

[Amorphic]

what would the optimal pct for a cycle (stated post above me ) be ?
and could one do anavar for week 1-8 at 100mg /day ?

-ahem-

[J*U*icEd]

I think you may have helped me settle this one J*U*icEd.

one last question, is 8 weeks sufficient for npp or is it best to be run 10 weeks to get the most out of it.

I'm assuming due to the fast acting ester that i could run it for 8 and the prop 10?

So a sample outline would be:

1-8 NPP 75mgs/ed? or 100?
1-10 test prop 75mg/ed

thoughts?

yea 8 weeks would suffice... i would run it longer on the other hand, but thats just me... if i were you i would run the test to 11 1/2 weeks and run the NPP 10 weeks... u could run the test longer but if your dead set on shorter i would atleast run the test 10 days past the NPP and run the phynelprop for 10 weeks... but if you wana keep it short and simple the cycle length you have laid out would be fine.... as for dosing i like to run the test higher then any other compound, but for ur first im guessin you wana keep the test around 500mgs/week so run the NPP at 75mgs/ed (525mgs/wk), and if you see libido problems which you shouldn't then drop it to 50mgs/ed.. but you should be fine with the doseage the same... good luck man!... got any other questions ask away

[J*U*icEd]

what would the optimal pct for a cycle (stated post above me ) be ?
and could one do anavar for week 1-8 at 100mg /day ?

come on bro start your own thread... im tryin to help out amorph here.. i will gladly help you if you start ur own thread

[IntenseAthlete]

what do you mean even if the results aren't as great... NPP is the same thing as deca but with a shorter ester... so if deca sounds good and gives great results why wouldn't NPP...

I was refering to Tren!........Npp/prop sounds good, I was agreeing with you

Solid A, wtf that is horrible hijack

Morph, what you have laid out is fine but just cause you are running short esters doesnt mean you have to run them shorter.....12-16 weeks is going to be the as same running long esters for that length(AS far your testical goes) but even better cause you go right in your pct

[Amorphic]

yea 8 weeks would suffice... i would run it longer on the other hand, but thats just me... if i were you i would run the test to 11 1/2 weeks and run the NPP 10 weeks... u could run the test longer but if your dead set on shorter i would atleast run the test 10 days past the NPP and run the phynelprop for 10 weeks... but if you wana keep it short and simple the cycle length you have laid out would be fine.... as for dosing i like to run the test higher then any other compound, but for ur first im guessin you wana keep the test around 500mgs/week so run the NPP at 75mgs/ed (525mgs/wk), and if you see libido problems which you shouldn't then drop it to 50mgs/ed.. but you should be fine with the doseage the same... good luck man!... got any other questions ask away

thankyou, very helpful information.

[Amorphic]

I was refering to Tren!........Npp/prop sounds good, I was agreeing with you

Solid A, wtf that is horrible hijack

Morph, what you have laid out is fine but just cause you are running short esters doesnt mean you have to run them shorter.....12-16 weeks is going to be the as same running long esters for that length(AS far your testical goes) but even better cause you go right in your pct

thankyou, i think i have the answers i am looking for now.

thanks everyone.

[J*U*icEd]

thankyou, i think i have the answers i am looking for now.

thanks everyone.

lay it out man... so what did you decide on... whats the cycle gonna look like?

[Amorphic]

1-12 test prop 75mg/ed
1-10 NPP 75mg/ed

caber on hand to deal with possible prolactin/progesterone sides, as well as arimidex to deal with any estrogen sides.

PCT following Anthony Roberts protocol.

There we have it, sounds good to me.

[J*U*icEd]

1-12 test prop 75mg/ed
1-10 NPP 75mg/ed

caber on hand to deal with possible prolactin/progesterone sides, as well as arimidex to deal with any estrogen sides.

PCT following Anthony Roberts protocol.

There we have it, sounds good to me.

very nice.. can't wait to here the results of your first man... keep me posted..

[knuggy]

100mg e3d worked great for me . very few sides and little bloat

[soccer#3]

ed injections for 12 weeks on first cycle, i gotta hand it to u man, thats brave.

[J*U*icEd]

ed injections for 12 weeks on first cycle, i gotta hand it to u man, thats brave.

yea it is but amorph will get used to it after the first week or two...

[soccer#3]

i just hope he has someone helpin him

[football2007]

This is ur first cycle man....why don't you run somethin simple to get your feet wet?

You've been waitin this long you may be gettin too anxious over there

[Atomini]

What's with the 'Phenyl' part of the Propionate? Why don't they just use propionate?

And is there any injection pain with NPP compared to something like Test P? How were the deca dick sides on NPP as well?

I'm thinking of using this on my next bulking cycle.

[duramaxedge]

why are you thinking you need to run the test out longer? Phenyl Propianate and Propianate ester are both 3.5 days.. half life? Not sure that I completely understand the need to run test longer.. I would run both the compounds to 8 weeks.. just IMO

[longhorn814]

interesting..im thinking about trying NPP in my next cyle with prop..i was gonna use tren, but since Ive never used NPP I may give it a try

[Johny-too-small]

i wish they made a fast acting EQ... when i used eq i loved the results as well, but still like NPP(and deca) results much more

They do...but trust me, it hurts like a motha.

why are you thinking you need to run the test out longer? Phenyl Propianate and Propianate ester are both 3.5 days.. half life? Not sure that I completely understand the need to run test longer.. I would run both the compounds to 8 weeks.. just IMO

Not true. Phenylprop = 5 day, Prop = 3 day. Most NPP users administer EOD or E3D.

So, thats why you run the prop out longer. In addition, NPP is a 19nor which means hard shutdown so you want a few days extra of prop if you dont recover from Deca and Tren quickly.

[lex57]

and to make things even easier yet ..... why not have amorph do eod injects and double it 150npp/ 150 prop. i always shoot prop eod, with no problems, and phenylprop has a little longer half life than prop. first run ..... eod. just my 2 cents. i know people wil say that prop should be ed. all i am saying is that i shoot eod...... and this may be more conducive for this situation. i am actually getting ready for 100 prop/ 150 npp eod. and 75mg winny oral winny ed. probably in a few weeks. first time with npp and way lookin forward to it. peace.....

[longhorn814]

and to make things even easier yet ..... why not have amorph do eod injects and double it 150npp/ 150 prop. i always shoot prop eod, with no problems, and phenylprop has a little longer half life than prop. first run ..... eod. just my 2 cents. i know people wil say that prop should be ed. all i am saying is that i shoot eod...... and this may be more conducive for this situation. i am actually getting ready for 100 prop/ 150 npp eod. and 75mg winny oral winny ed. probably in a few weeks. first time with npp and way lookin forward to it. peace.....

thats exactly was I was thinking about starting here in a week or two as well..was gonna do tren, but thining I'll give NPP a try

[shifty_git]

What's with the 'Phenyl' part of the Propionate? Why don't they just use propionate?

And is there any injection pain with NPP compared to something like Test P? How were the deca dick sides on NPP as well?

I'm thinking of using this on my next bulking cycle.

i had no injection pain what so ever... my npp was 150mg/ml, 2%ba, 20%bb

interesting..im thinking about trying NPP in my next cyle with prop..i was gonna use tren, but since Ive never used NPP I may give it a try

ive used deca in the past, and then done 2 npp cycles since.. npp gave me clean gains and nice hard pumps compared with the deca.

from what people say the benefits of tren are, id say the effects of the npp were leaning towards those overall effects, but without the sides.

[taiboxa]

npp is great stuff i use it E3D no probs wats so ever due to its low androgenic properties

[soccer#3]

npp is great stuff i use it E3D no probs wats so ever due to its low androgenic properties

npp only or did u have some test in there too?

[taiboxa]

npp only or did u have some test in there too?

i on trt