Seekin Advice Plz

[Steve.O]

Ive always been realy slim, id say i have a high metabloism. but anyway i'll get to the point. Ive been to the gym for 2 years solid, got straight into the swing of things as i train wiv a family member whos been doing it years, so knew what i was doing from the start. I was like a stick b4 i started, managed to gain about 35lbs in that 2 year.

Anyway ive started my 1st cycle, ye it is too early but i couldnt help myself. Was on my mind all the time to try it.

My Cycle:
Sustanon 250- 1ml every 3 days-14week
Deca-1ml every 3 days-12 week
I mix both togeva, going to run Sustanon 2 week longer than Deca
HGC run from week 12-15
Shud i use more then jus HGC, the dealers say i dont need it but i read opposite on here.

Im on my 5th week now stacked on alot of muscle, but i seem to be puttin on sum Fat aswell, specially on my stomach, which has never been a problem before. Is this normal with having the juice? Should i be doing alotve cardio aswell? Didnt think alot was necessary wanted to focus on my gains more then anything. Someone mentioned i might not be training hard enough. i believe i am, but could this be the case?

Diet- could be the problem? tell me what u think

My diet is pretty clean, not much fat invovled. I make sure i have more then enough protein and Carbs each meal. Have 6-7 proper meals for gaining. Is having too much Carbs maybe were im going wrong? as far as puttin fat on?


Im 21:
5ft10
185lbs
Appreciate any advice given Good or Bad. Thankyou.

[longhorn814]

when bulking its quite common to put on fat..unless you have an amazing metabolism and an amazing diet, you will put on fat..i seriously suggest you learn how and what post cycle therapy (PCT) is..HCG will not suffice..in fact i use HCG during a cyle, not after..there are various theories on it, but I have my experieinces...PCT should consist of nolva and/or clomid..with possibly an aromatase inhibitor (AI)..go to the PCT section and do some reading..deca is one of the most supressive compounds you can take and you will be shut down bad when you come off..if you dont have a good PCT..you will probably lose all your gains and have all the common side effects of low testosterone

[kick6]

Don't assume that because your diet is low fat that you won't store fat. Some fats actually help you lose weight!

[Steve.O]

Right i have read PCT. I dont want to come across as annoying or lazy, but what the heck. Some of u guyz seem like geniouses in my eyes. Can any1 tel me exactly what i shud be adding/usin in my cycle plz. Cause like i said people i know tell me different but i respect your views over them anyday.
Plus i'll be absolutely distraught if i loose my gains, at the moment im on a high, realy feel good bout myself, even tho ive put bita fat on. Ive spent money on this cycle i realy havent got. I dont want it to go to waste.
Please guys, im no Leader. i always work best after been told what to do. Then i get stuck in. If i keep these gains i'll be buzzing. Thankyou.

[KJSolid]

Man I dont want to sound like your father but why are you spending money that you dont realy have first off. Secondly, You need to get your PCT straight before your cylce ends (shouldve been before you started). I would recommend Nolva and Aromasin but others will have differing opinions. Good luck.

[longhorn814]

odds are you will lose some of your gains when you stop for several reasons (1) some of the weight is water (2) you dont know how to do a PCT (3) you will most likely feel like crap during PCT and you wont eat enough or over train..ive found over the years i have better cycles and keep more each cycle as ive learned what to do and what works best for my body over the years..i would suggest you learn as much about PCT as possible and make sure you have it ready when the time comes..nolva/clomid is a common PCT protocol..but you should read about all of them

[Steve.O]

When should i run the Nolva? Also ive always trained for 1- 1 and 1/2 hours 5 times a week mostly just doing 1 part of the body each day. Should i be training realy realy hard wen on the juice?
P.S money aint the issue here but thank you for your concern lol.

[longhorn814]

you need to start PCT 18 days after you last shot of sust..your training sounds fine when youre on, but you should reduce it a little bit when you come off and during PCT

[Steve.O]

i Heard i should start usin HGC week after last shot of Deca to kcik my balls back into action? this true? cheers longhorn

[longhorn814]

i Heard i should start usin HGC week after last shot of Deca to kcik my balls back into action? this true? cheers longhorn

there are mixed theories on HCG..i personally prefer to use HCG during cycle..and use a SERM and/or AI to get my natty test production working after cycle..but HCG alone is not suitable for post cycle therapy..go to the PCT section and start reading

[Steve.O]

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
So if i got with the PCT i should be fine??
Is Nolvadex and Aromasin available in UK? Ive asked bout kno1 seems to know ov them.

[Steve.O]

Bump... any1 answer my last post plz? thankyou

[DEVLDOG]

dont knock yourself for using bro,your 21,i was 17 the first time i used and believe me we didnt know anything 20yrs ago compared to now..your cycle looks decent,you got some solid advice on pct theropy only thing i would have told you to do diffeent is use a single ester test like test e,I personally am not a fan of sust,have used it many many times and always felt like sh!t around week 5 for whatever reasons (sust flu?), your workouts look fine,doesnt matter if you spend 1hr or 5hrs in the gym,it does however make a difference as to what you do with the time you are in there,if your not leaving there feeling like you just beat the sh!t out of your muscles then your doing something wrong,and believe me,it doesnt take more then an hr to do that if your busting your balls in there,other then that,just eat clean and eat alot,the more you grow the more calories you will need to continue to grow and you need to eat fat bro,,,go to the diet forum and read up...fat and protien meals....carbs and protien meals,,just never fat and carbs in the same meals...thats it in a nut shell

goodluck,its along road so dont expect miricles over nite and stick with it,it will come,trust me

[Steve.O]

Cheers DevlDog... A real boost to my confidence there. Im startin to feel less foolish and nieve after every post. Think i'l stop worryin and just concentrate on puttin as much weight on as possible. Thankyou to every1 who posted

[Soviet-Strength]

i def agree wit longhorn i also use hcg durin cycle.. seems to work best that way

[DEVLDOG]

Cheers DevlDog... A real boost to my confidence there. Im startin to feel less foolish and nieve after every post. Think i'l stop worryin and just concentrate on puttin as much weight on as possible. Thankyou to every1 who posted

you got it brotha!
theres alot more to it then just the drugs,if it were that simple everyone would be huge!!

[Steve.O]

Ok am a little worried, or maybe being paranoid. My balls are realy small compared to what they were and my spunk is very liquidy. Is this common and happen to most people that take sust and deca? Thankyou

[kick6]

Ok am a little worried, or maybe being paranoid. My balls are realy small compared to what they were and my spunk is very liquidy. Is this common and happen to most people that take sust and deca? Thankyou

Common with Deca, yes. Make sure your PCT is straight so you can get your boys back to normal as quickly as possible when you come off your cycle.