Perfect cycle

[Spartan0503]

I am a college athlete, so I cant do anything that is detectable for awhile (deca). I want to put on 15 lbs of quality muscle, dont care if i gain fat while on this either. I am wary of test because I feel like whatever you gain while on it, you will lose later (if this is wrong please correct me) A little quality muscle that i wont lose is more important to me than putting on alot really fast and losing it later. stats:

6'6"
250
22
had one cycle of deca and dbol about a year and a half ago
been lifting for six years

what do you guys think is the perfect cycle for me? appreciate the feedback.

[Chuck_R]

I'm no expert, actually a beginner finishing 1st cycle, but I do research my butt off. Test is what I would think best but go with a short ester like test prop or test suspension. They clear out quicker than your longer ester test like cyp or enth. A proper PCT will keep you from losing most of your gains. You'll have to inject everyday but you'll get used to that quick with no problems.

Another option is to go with an oral like anavar and run a short cycle with it, plus proper pct. Maybe someone with more experience can respond to thread.

[DEVLDOG]

first of all your goal is unrealistic...15lbs of real quality muscle....go to the supermarket and pickup 15lbs of steak and try and imagine putting all that on as muscle....takes yrs bro and the fact you say you dont care about getting fat while on this tells me your not real sure what you want to do but anyway

500mg of a long ester TEST every week for 12-16 weeks will put "SIZE" you,your diet and workout will determine how that size comes about

[Spartan0503]

Yeah I figured 15 lbs was a bit optimistic, but Im gonna be in a serious bulk diet/workout, so i dont think its impossible. Plus, I have only taken steroids once before, so I think they should hit my receptors pretty hard. The thing about the fat, I meant that i dont mind if i gain fat while on this cycle cuz its mainly for bulking. I have never taken test before, but from looking around this forum it seems like taking test by itself will get you good gains that you will just lose later. Am I totally wrong here?

[Spartan0503]

also whats the detection time on a long ester test?

[admirals56]

^^^ depends wich one

[Spartan0503]

a long ester, like cyp

[admirals56]

3 months

[hugovsilva]

Keeping your MUSCLE gains will depend on your diet and pct mostly. The weight you might lose post cycle, if these are on spot will be mainly water that you might have accumulated.
You don't just lose muscle like that. It takes low androgens and/or poor diet for that to happen (if you don't have any wasting disease). So If you do a test cycle (whatever the ester) the muscle gains are as keepable as with any other hormone.