ATTENTION ANYONE THATS USED SACHETS...help please

[Mazzive_T]

ATTENTION ANYONE THATS USED SACHETS:

what pin did you use?

I have 21g 1 1/2 inch

23g 1 1/4 inch

25g 1 inch

25g 5/8 inch.

Which ones more suitable to draw with from sachets?and did you rip a little corner first? as apparently theres no air in there and ive read theres no way of getting air in there.

I presume if you can just put a pin in and draw that you should swap the pin over after youve pierced it for drawing as it would of blunted the pin.

Also towards the end of the supply in the pouch, did you roll it up then try draw some more in, repeating this process a couple of times? And did it work?

Ive done my research on this, just want to know first hand experience.

Any Help Appreciated.

T.

[shifty_git]

posted a vid but had advert on it....

will pm ya

[Mazzive_T]

recieved your pm. thanks very much for your help. much appreciated.

T.

Any more input from anyone?

[rampage12]

i did mine with a 18gu needle and 20cc syringe sucked it all out when u start sucking it out it will create a vacuum in the sachet so pretty much get everything out there might be few drops left, and the place i order from usally over fills a tad so i got 22cc out of some of mine

[sphincter]

I cut open the sachets, drew with 18ga and then injected into 20ml sealed vial.. left 1 18ga pin in the vial and twisted it onto the loaded syringe, untwisted and put back on loading pin, switched back and forth like that a couple times t oavoid poking the vial stopper so many times needlessly.

[rampage12]

well dont do that do not cut it open when u do it becomes un sterile do as i said its very easy and you will get all ou it out but dont use anything smaller then an 18 pin or it will take forever

[Mazzive_T]

the widest needle i can get is a 21g so il draw with that, il stick it in one corner, hold it so the top corner is opposite to the corner im drawing from. Il warm it up first too and if i run out of drawing space on the 5ml plunger il take the barrell from the needle and make it so theres no air in there. Or il just start again to get the remainder with another 5ml plunger in the same hole. That doesnt sound un-sterile at all does it?

T.

p.s. rampage think im ordering from the same site as you. ;-)

[rampage12]

probably but do u have a supply store near u? i have a feed store near me with 20cc/18gu needles for animals but there still sterile

[Mazzive_T]

im in england mate, you cant just walk in a pharmacy here and buy them, they only sell insulin needles.

I get mine free from the local needle exchange along with swabs, bins, etc. And the widest they do is 21g. Thanks anyway bud.

[CYP400]

well dont do that do not cut it open when u do it becomes un sterile do as i said its very easy and you will get all ou it out but dont use anything smaller then an 18 pin or it will take forever

do you honestly believe that it is sterile in the satchet??

[Mazzive_T]

do you honestly believe that it is sterile in the satchet??

it says so on both the source checks of websites that i gave to Vet's of this board. So I trust it.

[CYP400]

no way it can be sterile because you can NOT sterilize those satchets, probably the liquid is sterile when put in those satchets but it can never ever be sterile like a glass vial...if a satchet is sterile prove how it is sterilized and why no REAL pharma company will ever use a satchet

[Mazzive_T]

so then its false advertising on behalf of the website who sells this stuff then?

[legobricks]

Using satchets are sterile. They are a different way to ship to get through customs and have been used for a long time now. Only problem is once you pierce the satchet with the syringe/needle you need to draw out all the oil and transfer into a multipurpose vial as satchets are not.

[CYP400]

have seen many people get infections with those things, do not want to point any fingers but all i asked is proof from any one of those sites and not one was able to explain how the satchets are sterile

[CYP400]

Using satchets are sterile. They are a different way to ship to get through customs and have been used for a long time now. Only problem is once you pierce the satchet with the syringe/needle you need to draw out all the oil and transfer into a multipurpose vial as satchets are not.

never once has a site that sells these things explained how the sterilize their satchets..we know how to sterilize vials but satchets is not possible

[Mazzive_T]

so its sterile basically before it comes in contact with air?

[legobricks]

And for your information yes you can sterilize satchets. They use a gaseous chemical process which sterilizes the satchet. Not to difficult with the right equipment.

[CYP400]

they do not have access to any such equipment, these are little ugl's, but you know what...beleive what you will

[Mazzive_T]

well has anyone reading this had any sterlile doubts about sachets or ever had any infections?

[legobricks]

How do you think IV bags are sterile? You can pretty much sterilize anything nowadays. Research it out.

[Mazzive_T]

CYP400, legobricks, rampage, shifty, and sphincter.

Thanks for your help. Im off.

Peace.

T.

[CYP400]

like i said you can beleive what you wish

[CYP400]

CYP400, legobricks, rampage, shifty, and sphincter.

Thanks for your help. Im off.

Peace.

T.

bro just refiler is my best advice

[legobricks]

Its UGL bro, doesnt matter if its sachets, vials or any other methods of delivering the steroids. Either way your taking a risk so we all assume its sterile. Yes satchets can be sterilized as well as everything else. You wont really know that tho becuase the BA in the AAS will kill almost everything. And once again, its UGL so your taking a risk either way.

[Nickster#1]

they do not have access to any such equipment, these are little ugl's, but you know what...beleive what you will

I think you would be surprised at what "little UGLs", as you call them, are capable of................

[CYP400]

please...lets let this one go

[rampage12]

i ve had no infections bro just clean sachet with alcohol before u stick it

[operationgetbig]

too much work imo. the idea seems ok. but sterility issues worry me about using sachets. most people use an 18 gauge needle to draw the juice out of the sachet then put it into a sterile vial.