Virgin test receptors

[FloridaMuscle]

Ok, so i have deciede to run Test E for 10 weeks at 250mg per week... and i know that many of you guys are gonna tell me to run 500per week but i don't want to blow up to fast and i kinda want to sse how im gonna react to test... Sooooo my question is.... will i need to pct at 250 a week or will it not even affect my natural test lvls.... of course if im completely wrong ill run nolva 2 weeks after my last shot...

[admirals56]

yes u will need pct

[jch3131]

most deff bro need a pct. I ran 500 mg a week when I did my first cycle and didnt blow up, Of course I'm 6 foot 5.

[jch3131]

Nice to see someone else from Florida around here by the way lol welcome

[FloridaMuscle]

thanx bro... holding it down Tampa Bay area...yeah im 6'!" hoping to put on at least a nice 10 to 15 lbs... but what do ya mean din't blow up???

[taiboxa]

firstly .. 250mg of test is WAY more than you produce natturally in a week.
2ndly nolva only would be a shitty pct.

what are your stats? and i think you should do alot more reading before you jump into aas.

[FloridaMuscle]

hey yeah i thought i was kinda a noob question but i heard one of the guys at the gym mention it... i have been training for about 4-5 years pretty serious with lil breaks here and there( DC training latley)... im 6'1" 23 y/o...i float between 205-210 an am around 11% bf...hoping to go out for a show somtime next summer...
as for the nolva i read that clomid is not even necessary cause they both do the same thing increase LH and and bind to estrogen receptors... pct would start two weeks after last shot...i am gonna run 40mg for the first week and 25 for the folowing two... i don't mean to seem like im just jumping right into aas i think of it as kinda dipping my tow in right now...lol

[jch3131]

Sweet man, I'm layin back and relaxing here in dirty Lakeland lol. When I said I didnt blow up I mean I didnt gain too much too quick. It was slow hard gains, which was good cause it was my first cycle and I didnt want people to be able to look at me one week and all of the sudden I'm huge.

Pct are really just something you need to play around with and see what works best for you, everyone reacts diff to things. A lot of people said that clomid made them real depressed while on it. Thats wasnt the case for me. You can try running Arimidex or Aromasin with the nolva, but run the nolva at 20 mg/day if you are going to do that.

[blkmuscles]

sounds lile a good idea bt use a good pct !

[Njord]

hey yeah i thought i was kinda a noob question but i heard one of the guys at the gym mention it... i have been training for about 4-5 years pretty serious with lil breaks here and there( DC training latley)... im 6'1" 23 y/o...i float between 205-210 an am around 11% bf...hoping to go out for a show somtime next summer...
as for the nolva i read that clomid is not even necessary cause they both do the same thing increase LH and and bind to estrogen receptors... pct would start two weeks after last shot...i am gonna run 40mg for the first week and 25 for the folowing two... i don't mean to seem like im just jumping right into aas i think of it as kinda dipping my tow in right now...lol

Just a little cut and paste from pheedno's pct stickie pointing out some of the differences between Clomid and Tamoxifen:

Now IMO, selective estrogen receptor modulators(SERMs) such as Clomiphine and Tamoxifen are selective to which tissues they bind too. Clomid being selective to the suprapituitary, while Tamox is selective to breast, bone, and liver ERs. I've come to this conclusion based on the comparison of studies on both SERMs. In every study showing benefit to HPTA from tamoxifin, the duration of the administration is 3-12months(This includes studies cited by William Llewellyn in his Nolva vs Clomid article). In studies showing levels of LH, FSH, and Testosterone checked after short durations of tamox, they were either insignificant, or their was an actual drop. I believe this is because tamox selectively works at the mammery(as well as bone and liver), thus taking longer for LH stimulation to occur.
With clomid, benefit to gonadotrophin concentrations, LH, FSH, and serum testosterone can be seen in short periods of 2-6wks. Because of the apparent selective nature of the two, and given our usual PCT duration, clomid is by far superior at LH stimulation than Nolva. Now both is the wise choice for a couple of reasons:

1. Nolva acts as the preventive measure to the estrogen flux
occured PC while clomid is the primary LH stimulator(Even more so in the case an AI is not used).
2. If your running a longer PCT, clomid needs to be discontinued after a while as it has been shown to desensitize GnRH, this due, IMO, to it's selective nature to the suprapituitary. In the longer forms of PCT, the clomid will be phased out, leaving Nolva and L-dex