MY EXPENSIVE PTC=bankrupt !!!

[the.muscled.lawyer]

hi,


i am 6" 2' tall (i am 188 cm tall)


19% bodyfat.


diet : 250 gr prot , 165 gr carbs, 30 gr fat


workout : 4x / week ----> running on empty stomach 35 min

1x/ week -----> bodybuilding workout


i m endomorph : i take muscle at the speed of light , even i m on a diet with a few carbs...

i take fat also at the smallest swerve...


here is my cycle :

Day 1 Clen 20mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 2 Clen 20mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 3 Clen 20mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 4 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 5 Clen 40mcg / T3 25mcg
Day 6 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 7 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 8 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day 9 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day10 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day11 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day12 anavar 25 mg / T3 50mcg
Day13 anavar 25 mg / T3 25mcg
Day14 anavar 25 mg / T3 25mcg
Day15 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day16 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day17 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day18 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day19 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day20 Clen 60 mcg / T3 25mcg
Day21 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day22 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day23 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day24 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day25 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day26 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day27 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day28 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50 mcg
Day29 Clen 60mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day30 Clen 60mcg / T3 50 mcg
Day31 Clen 60 mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 60 mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 60 mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 60 mcg / T3 50mcg

Day36 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day37 anavar 25 mg/ T3 50mcg
Day38 anavar 25 mg/ T3 25mcg
Day39 anavar 25 mg/ T3 25mcg
Day40 anavar 25 mg/ T3 25mcg
Day41 anavar 25 mg/ T3 25mcg
Day42 anavar 25 mg/ T3 25mcg


I don't care to lose muscle as long as i lose more fat

something like 70 % lost fat of lost weight is still being acceptable for this cycle


cost : why lower doses of anavar ? because it s very expensive






thank you to advise me.

[shifty_git]

Id be careful using t3 without an anabolic as t3 can be catabolic.

id do the anavar with the clen and t3 rather than the random week on / week off

Id edit out the price as well, no price talk on the board.

[N4cer]

Why would you stop using the var off and on like that?

[the.muscled.lawyer]

but in this case, t3 is stacked with an anabolic, here, being the case with the clenbu



fina, because anavar dont help to burn fat but just to keep your muscle what if it was not the case, will be burned by the cytomel


and anavar is very expensive so i m try to use it the least

[Njord]

but in this case, t3 is stacked with an anabolic, here, being the case with the clenbu



fina, because anavar dont help to burn fat but just to keep your muscle what if it was not the case, will be burned by the cytomel


and anavar is very expensive so i m try to use it the least

Clenbuterol is not an anabolic. Cycling the anavar week on, week off at those low doses is a complete waste imo.

[abstrack]

Clenbuterol is not an anabolic. Cycling the anavar week on, week off at those low doses is a complete waste imo.

I disagree. Most parrots will say you have to run 50mg a day or more anavar to see results. 25mg is fine IMO. I have ran 25mg and I have ran 80mg, and there isnt much difference rather than a broke ass bank account.


You can see results on 25mg of anavar. Same as winstrol. I have ran 100mg/ed and I have ran 25mg/ed, and 25mg is just the same in regards to results.

[Kennedy]

I disagree. Most parrots will say you have to run 50mg a day or more anavar to see results. 25mg is fine IMO. I have ran 25mg and I have ran 80mg, and there isnt much difference rather than a broke ass bank account.


You can see results on 25mg of anavar. Same as winstrol. I have ran 100mg/ed and I have ran 25mg/ed, and 25mg is just the same in regards to results.

Is this true abstrack?

[Njord]

I disagree. Most parrots will say you have to run 50mg a day or more anavar to see results. 25mg is fine IMO. I have ran 25mg and I have ran 80mg, and there isnt much difference rather than a broke ass bank account.


You can see results on 25mg of anavar. Same as winstrol. I have ran 100mg/ed and I have ran 25mg/ed, and 25mg is just the same in regards to results.

I ran it @ 80mg and wasn't impressed. Everyone is different I guess. The worse part is cycling it on and off like he is doing.

[abstrack]

IMO, I believe most people run way too much gear. I think you can achieve the same results running a smaller amount of gear, while stacking it, and run it for longer periods.

In my personal experience, I have found that i could run less amounts of gear for longer periods of time, and still achieve the same results while doing proper training, nutrition, and recovery.

I find that in my own experience, that more gear = more side effects, less cash in the bank, and wasted product.

I have probably parroted the phrase myself before and said to run no less than 50mg a day, ETC......


i think once you find the right balance between training, dieting, rest & consistency. You can start to really reap the rewards of supplements.

[abstrack]

I ran it @ 80mg and wasn't impressed. Everyone is different I guess. The worse part is cycling it on and off like he is doing.

I agree. I wouldnt cycle it on & off like he is doing either. I would run it straight through with just the T-3, then switch to clen by itself in the end.

[Schmidty]

Im guna guess this is ur first attempt at maken a cycle. It wont be ur last because no offence(that makes it ok to say)it really fvckn blows. Yes var is really expencive. But that does not mean u should run a cycle with what you have because ur2eager. Patience is a virtue my and it will pay off to wait and get more var2 run it through ur cycle. Listen or dont, u proly wont and ur gona be really upset with this cycle.

[Njord]

Also why are you cycling the t3 up and down. Why only one week of clen at a time? Did you come up with this cycle yourself?

[magic32]

I disagree. Most parrots will say you have to run 50mg a day or more anavar to see results. 25mg is fine IMO. I have ran 25mg and I have ran 80mg, and there isnt much difference rather than a broke ass bank account.


You can see results on 25mg of anavar. Same as winstrol. I have ran 100mg/ed and I have ran 25mg/ed, and 25mg is just the same in regards to results.

For me 80mgs of Var was fantastic, and this was during a Var only experiment so as not to confound results. I began with a week of 40, then 60, 80, 100. No diff. in the last two.

Regardless, I agree w/Abstr., and this is a good testimonial thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=312297

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Now where to begin:
Not sure what you mean Njord, T3 should always be ramped as per the manufacturer Schering's (recently changed to Armour) directions.
http://www.armourthyroid.com/Armourthyroid_pi.pdf
(see "Dosage and Administration")

but in this case, t3 is stacked with an anabolic, here, being the case with the clenbu
I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH NJORD HERE. CLEN IS NOT AN ANABOLIC AND WILL NOT NEGATE T3'S MUSCLE CATABOLISM. GRANTED SOME ATTEST TO VERY MILD ANABOLISM AFTER 6WKS, AS STATED IN THE PROFILE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSE HERE.

fina, because anavar dont help to burn fat but just to keep your muscle what if it was not the case, will be burned by the cytomel
ANAVAR HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BURN FAT IN MULTIPLE STUDIES WITH & W/O EXERCISE AT VARIOUS DOSAGES. SEE PROFILE, AS WELL AS REFERENCED STUDIES.

and anavar is very expensive so i m try to use it the least
AS TRUE AS THIS IS, YOU NEED TO SAVE UP BECAUSE VAR, AND ANY STEROID NEEDS TO BE RUN CONSISTENTLY. SO AGAIN I'M WITH NJORD, ALTHOUGH VAR'S SHORT HALF LIFE IS INDICATIVE OF RAPID RESULTS, IT AND OTHER GEAR IS LARGELY INEFFECTIVE WHEN USED SO INTERMITTENTLY (1WK ON/OFF)...HENCE THE TERM "CYCLE".

Lastly, the Clen can be increased daily, is also best administered continuously...see the profile for protocol.

Best to you.

[Njord]

He is ramping the t3 up and down continuously 5 days @ 25mcg, then 5 days @ 50mcg and then back down to 25mcg for5 days etc.. etc..

I am just trying to understand the logic in this whole cycle. The more I look at it the worse it seems.

[magic32]

He is ramping the t3 up and down continuously 5 days @ 25mcg, then 5 days @ 50mcg and then back down to 25mcg for5 days etc.. etc..

I am just trying to understand the logic in this whole cycle. The more I look at it the worse it seems.

Gotcha, and good point.

This is certainly not recommended, for various reasons.
And obviously this entire cycle requires revamping, but his logic appears to be centered around lower T3 dosages in the absence of Var (anti-catabolic). Again, a complete overhaul is warranted.