Question about juice "Kicking in"

[VR4]

As you wait for you gear to kick in....do you not feel anything at all? No side effects, no weight gain, no strength gain, or physical change at all?
I'm talking about deca specifically.

Just curious is all....

[breakbones]

I'm going on my 5th week of Test E 250. twice a week, I've been noticing my labido is up; I was gaining some weight, but do to my mma fight I just had to cut 8lbs. My strenght everyone tells me is off the charts. So, I would probably say you might see some bloat and some strenght gains. I have. But I hear it depends on what you're taking= an amount of time for it to kick in.

[scaramouche]

with deca i feel it almost instantly although gains take up to week 4 to appear, i can feel dbol instantly too and prop but not as pronounced as deca

[taiboxa]

it is in your system and going to work almost immediatly. the KICK IN part most refer to, are the GAINS you acquire from training and dieting while on.

[VR4]

it is in your system and going to work almost immediatly. the KICK IN part most refer to, are the GAINS you acquire from training and dieting while on.

but what do you mean by that? I know its in my system but is it noticeable? I've been on deca for three and a half weeks and i front loaded, but i havent noticed any changes yet. I just want to make sure my gear isn't fake.

[Big]

what are your stats and what is your complete cycle (and please don't say deca only).

[Homer 8]

but what do you mean by that? I know its in my system but is it noticeable? I've been on deca for three and a half weeks and i front loaded, but i havent noticed any changes yet. I just want to make sure my gear isn't fake.

Are you taking deca only..

[Homer 8]

(and please don't say deca only).

Sorry dude didnt see this bit of your post. You shouldn be taking deca only, it should alway be run with test..
Post what your taking

[VR4]

Jesus christ...yes, it is an intentional Deca only cycle.

Every time I start a thread, people give me crap about running deca only.
I KNOW it "shouldnt" be done, but you guys dont know the whole story.
But thank you for your concern.

My stats are 5'10", 182 lbs. 8%BF....diets solid at about 4k calories, 300g protein a day.

Cycle consists of 350mg Deca only, with a 700mg frontload on the first day.
A.R. PCT

[Second2None]

i like to run deca at 500-600mg
350 wouldnt do shit for me
and i hope it isnt hat stuff you have on your pic

[NSXTC]

The whole story? You NEED to have test in you, even if only run 200mg/wk. If you cant get it then you should wait until you can. There are no side effects from 200mg/wk of test (e,c). There is no excuse. You are in for a painfull cycle at only 350mg of deca with no HRT. Good luck with PCT.

[MikeAZ]

The whole story? You NEED to have test in you, even if only run 200mg/wk. If you cant get it then you should wait until you can. There are no side effects from 200mg/wk of test (e,c). There is no excuse. You are in for a painfull cycle at only 350mg of deca with no HRT. Good luck with PCT.

Totally right on that bro! I was stupid when I was younger and ran a deco only cycle. Let me put it this way I felt like a f***in woman for about 8 months, and could not get back into lifting. Take their advice, AAS will cut off natural testosterone, and you need that synthetic test to be able to keep your gain that you work so hard for!!!

[VR4]

Thanks for the lecture and useless advice you 2. As if I have never heard it before.....answer my question or get the hell out of my thread. Like I said, you dont know the whole story.


Second2None, you said 350mg wouldnt do anything. Is that because your body is just used to higher doses after all the cycles you've done...or has it always been that way?
I've heard of people getting good results with only 300mg/week. If thats the case...then maybe I should up the dose.

[Big]

Thanks for the lecture and useless advice you 2. As if I have never heard it before.....answer my question or get the hell out of my thread. Like I said, you dont know the whole story.

You have a bad attitude, they are trying to help. Why don't you tell us "the whole story" so we will understand your point of view.

[ecto9]

Run the Decca and log it up for us to see. Then maybe you'll feel differently.

[VR4]

You have a bad attitude, they are trying to help. Why don't you tell us "the whole story" so we will understand your point of view.

I don't have a bad attittude, but when people tell me something I specifically tell them not to...that pisses me. Most of the time they are just parroting off what others say anyway, and dont speak from personal experience. Either way, I have done so much research on deca only cycles, and I know all the draw backs. I said I know its not supposed to be done, but people are still telling me not to do it. I have a bad attitude?
and another person tells me to run a decca only cycle, saying I will feel differently.....and they cant even spell deca correctly, even though it is typed all over this page. I'm sure hes not speaking from personal experience, just parroting others.

And I have said many times why I'm not running test, I'm not going to explain myself again because I do not need to.

So for the last time....I KNOW DECA ONLY CYCLES ARE BAD. THEY WILL MAKE MY BRAIN MELT AND MAKE ME DICK TURN INTO A VAGINA. ALSO IT WILL GIVES AIDS TO MY WHOLE FAMILY.

come on now...I know I need test, but I have chosen not to run it for personal reasons.

[gixxerboy1]

So are the personal reasons you want a vagina or you want to give your family AIDS?

[Big]

Why are the reasons so personal that you can't tell us? Come on, we're family here

[NSXTC]

"parroting off what others say" It is a fact, deca is nothing like test. It has been chemically altered to behave differently. Your body will go through a crisis when your natural test levels fall to zero.

"I know all the draw backs" You dont! You risk real harm, this is a fact!

"I'm not running test, I'm not going to explain myself again " You sound like my ex.

"So for the last time....I KNOW DECA ONLY CYCLES ARE BAD. THEY WILL MAKE MY BRAIN MELT AND MAKE ME DICK TURN INTO A VAGINA. ALSO IT WILL GIVES AIDS TO MY WHOLE FAMILY." Only if we're lucky.

"I know I need test, but I have chosen not to run it for personal reasons." What religion says no test?

Seriously, we are only trying to help. If you said you wanted to drive your car with a blindfold on we would tell you that you are crazy. Doing a deca only cycle is just as crazy, no good can come of it. Asking for advice on how to do something the wrong way is so frustrating.

[legobricks]

Nice name change Big! Finally hit that status! Anyways, This guy posted a thread a while back on deca only and it turned into 4 pages i beleive. He knows its bad yet still wants to do it, lame idea but once again his body. All I can say to VR4 as if you are posting about a cycle that is not recomended on this site and avoided for many reasons EXPECT to hear it, if you dont like it then dont ask, plain and simple. We are all here to help, and yes a lot of people parrot information and get it half right. Others who have not run deca but tren only still can give their personal experience with it. Even people who dont run it at all and have researched it, i mean really researched in depth are not parroting. We give advice to help you so if you dont like it then dont post. As for your questions, your body starts to build hormone levels every week your on cycle till you reach peak levels in which thats when youll start to see some of your gains. It works immediatly as Tai stated BUT you may not feel it yet. Id say your gear may possibly be fake if you feel nothing.

[VR4]

"parroting off what others say" It is a fact, deca is nothing like test. It has been chemically altered to behave differently. Your body will go through a crisis when your natural test levels fall to zero.

"I know all the draw backs" You dont! You risk real harm, this is a fact!

"I'm not running test, I'm not going to explain myself again " You sound like my ex.

"So for the last time....I KNOW DECA ONLY CYCLES ARE BAD. THEY WILL MAKE MY BRAIN MELT AND MAKE ME DICK TURN INTO A VAGINA. ALSO IT WILL GIVES AIDS TO MY WHOLE FAMILY." Only if we're lucky.

"I know I need test, but I have chosen not to run it for personal reasons." What religion says no test?

Seriously, we are only trying to help. If you said you wanted to drive your car with a blindfold on we would tell you that you are crazy. Doing a deca only cycle is just as crazy, no good can come of it. Asking for advice on how to do something the wrong way is so frustrating.

When did I say deca is like test? Where are you getting this from? There have been many people that have run deca only cycles with no problems...you obviously don't know all the facts. And I said I know the draw backs....how are you saying I dont know they are bad for me? I realize its not right.... A lot of drug addicts know drugs are bad...but they still do it anyways. Why are just making shit up dumbass? You have nothing to go off of, so your making random shit up that I didnt even say. You don't know shit, so stop trying to act like a smartass.

Personal reason = religion? Why are you even bringing religion into this? Oh that's right....you have nothing to go off of, so you make shit up.

And I don't need your help in telling me its bad. I already stated many, many times that I know it is....so why the **** would you restate what I already said?

[legobricks]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=328606

If anyone cares to read about it.

[VR4]

Nice name change Big! Finally hit that status! Anyways, This guy posted a thread a while back on deca only and it turned into 4 pages i beleive. He knows its bad yet still wants to do it, lame idea but once again his body. All I can say to VR4 as if you are posting about a cycle that is not recomended on this site and avoided for many reasons EXPECT to hear it, if you dont like it then dont ask, plain and simple. We are all here to help, and yes a lot of people parrot information and get it half right. Others who have not run deca but tren only still can give their personal experience with it. Even people who dont run it at all and have researched it, i mean really researched in depth are not parroting. We give advice to help you so if you dont like it then dont post. As for your questions, your body starts to build hormone levels every week your on cycle till you reach peak levels in which thats when youll start to see some of your gains. It works immediatly as Tai stated BUT you may not feel it yet. Id say your gear may possibly be fake if you feel nothing.

Thank you for your help.

You just have to understand how frustrating it is hearing the same thing coming from everyones mouth.
I feel like it would be better to just lie and say I'm running test with it so people would get off my back...but that would change peoples answers to my questions then.

[sorel_C]

Thank you for your help.

You just have to understand how frustrating it is hearing the same thing coming from everyones mouth.
I feel like it would be better to just lie and say I'm running test with it so people would get off my back...but that would change peoples answers to my questions then.

I sencond that,, you want a response and not a flame,, say you add'd test,, but anywho your dose it pretty low for a 1 compond only cycle,, even if it was stack'd thats still pretty low,, if you do manage to feel somthing,,, give it 6-8 weeks before making any claims,, but then again its kinda low so,,, i dont know,, but i do know is that you neeedd some TEST!!

[VR4]

I sencond that,, you want a response and not a flame,, say you add'd test,, but anywho your dose it pretty low for a 1 compond only cycle,, even if it was stack'd thats still pretty low,, if you do manage to feel somthing,,, give it 6-8 weeks before making any claims,, but then again its kinda low so,,, i dont know,, but i do know is that you neeedd some TEST!!

werd.

I'm done with this thread. And thanks for your help guys.
(i think)

[Barkley9]

i like to run deca at 500-600mg
350 wouldnt do shit for me
and i hope it isnt hat stuff you have on your pic

Whats wrong with British Dragon???

[Panzerfaust80]

Dont sweat it bro everybody is different. These guys are giving you great advice, however, the same rule never applies to everyone. I saw amazing gains off deca only, as I didnt want the sides from a high androgenic test. bench went up like crazy, gained 25+ lbs and kept it... just eat right and keep working out hard and hoppefully it'll do u good.

[J*U*icEd]

Whats wrong with British Dragon???

it doesn't exsist anymore

[Barkley9]

it doesn't exsist anymore

i know that..... but you can still get some of their stuff from 06'

[Second2None]

I don't have a bad attittude, but when people tell me something I specifically tell them not to...that pisses me. Most of the time they are just parroting off what others say anyway, and dont speak from personal experience. Either way, I have done so much research on deca only cycles, and I know all the draw backs. I said I know its not supposed to be done, but people are still telling me not to do it. I have a bad attitude?
and another person tells me to run a decca only cycle, saying I will feel differently.....and they cant even spell deca correctly, even though it is typed all over this page. I'm sure hes not speaking from personal experience, just parroting others.

And I have said many times why I'm not running test, I'm not going to explain myself again because I do not need to.

So for the last time....I KNOW DECA ONLY CYCLES ARE BAD. THEY WILL MAKE MY BRAIN MELT AND MAKE ME DICK TURN INTO A VAGINA. ALSO IT WILL GIVES AIDS TO MY WHOLE FAMILY.

come on now...I know I need test, but I have chosen not to run it for personal reasons.

Ill be straight about it, i ran deca at 500-600mg a week for 12weeks and got fuking jacked as fuk i was only 185 and everyone swear i was 210, strong as fuk 2, but then i got off no pct everything was fine kept my gains, but then i couldnt get it up 2 save my life, my girl was in fukin tears as so was i, never again, i learned the hard way took me about 6 months to recover, now i run test on every cycle,take my advise or learn the hard way. you will get where you want but you better hope you dont meet any girls cause it will come down to it and they will walk out lau***ng at ya, watch out on sides to my boy ran deca for a long time, too long and got 1 of his nuts removed, shut down sooooooo bad he had blood coming out his dick, " From what he told me " good luck bro

why you getting real personal on deca man, there is only 1 reason why you should run deca on its own

[Second2None]

i know that..... but you can still get some of their stuff from 06'

lol, i think the people that make the fake shit that says 07 an change it to a 06 wit ease

[Barkley9]

lol, i think the people that make the fake shit that says 07 an change it to a 06 wit ease

right.... ive been using british dragon for my last two cycles and its 100% legit

[scaramouche]

it doesn't exsist anymore

wow.. just like real dragons

[scaramouche]

Ill be straight about it, i ran deca at 500-600mg a week for 12weeks and got fuking jacked as fuk i was only 185 and everyone swear i was 210, strong as fuk 2, but then i got off no pct everything was fine kept my gains, but then i couldnt get it up 2 save my life, my girl was in fukin tears as so was i, never again, i learned the hard way took me about 6 months to recover, now i run test on every cycle,take my advise or learn the hard way. you will get where you want but you better hope you dont meet any girls cause it will come down to it and they will walk out lau***ng at ya, watch out on sides to my boy ran deca for a long time, too long and got 1 of his nuts removed, shut down sooooooo bad he had blood coming out his dick, " From what he told me " good luck bro

why you getting real personal on deca man, there is only 1 reason why you should run deca on its own

similar story here, except i tapered down to 1 boner a week then came back up to normal

[taiboxa]

right.... ive been using british dragon for my last two cycles and its 100% legit

i gurantee you there are more fakes than legits out there at this point and time and the gap is only widening more and more w/ every passing day since they ceased production ages ago

[Second2None]

right.... ive been using british dragon for my last two cycles and its 100% legit

ive read sources are home brewing that crap so you will see results

[Barkley9]

ive read sources are home brewing that crap so you will see results

hmm... i was getting straight from a pharmacy in thailand... i dont think they could be home brewing that but i could be wrong..

[Second2None]

hmm... i was getting straight from a pharmacy in thailand... i dont think they could be home brewing that but i could be wrong..

why would you get that crap from a pharmacy, i would of got human grade direct

[Only_Patience]

Had 2 friends pretty much same body type/stats all in a little workout group.. One took test/deca cycle and the other took deca only cycle.. Neither took pct and both kept gains but the one who took only deca complained about sexual malfunctions haha for about 5 to 6 months longer than the one who took deca/test.. So from an outsider perspective I would highly recommend to stay away from only deca cycle.. Plus if you have personal reasons not to do a cycle right why do a cycle at all? Just like someone who will take a whole cycle and totally disreguard pct which is just plain dumb.. MAN UP

[seattleironpumper]

you have shown us all that u are probably not a day older than 16, but that is just a guess

werd.

I'm done with this thread. And thanks for your help guys.
(i think)