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    Thumbs up Mixing HCG. Please help me.

    About to start a bulking cycle as follows :-
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    DRUGS USED : Deca @250mg/ml, Sustanon @250mg/ml, Aromasin @ 25mg/ml, Nolvadex @ 25mg/ml, HCG 1 x 5000iu, Albuterol @ 4mg/ml
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    CYCLE
    DAY 1 : Frontload - 2ml SUS, 1.5ml DECA
    Then 2 days later:-

    Weeks 1 - 10 - DECA @ 0.5ml E4Ds = 218mg EW
    Weeks 1 - 12 - SUS @ 0.5ml EOD = 437mg EW, Aromasin @ 0.4ml ED -> 7.5mg ED
    Weeks 13 - 15 - Prepare Balls for PCT
    HCG @ 500iu EOD for 10 shots (I am gyno sensitive so want to use minimum for first time)
    Up Aromasin to 25mg ED
    Nolvadex 20mg ED
    MDIEN 6 x 4mg ED
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    PCT
    Weeks 16 - 19 (4 Weeks)
    Continue Aromasin @ 25mg ED
    Up Nolvadex to 50mg ED (First 2 weeks then down to 25mg ED thereafter)
    Albuterol @ 4mg ED

    Weeks 20 - 21 (Further 2 weeks)
    Nolvadex 25mg ED
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    I would really appreciate anyones help regarding mixing & administering the HCG as I have never used it before. I have researched as much as possible including
    reading the sticky in this section but wanted to check that I am getting it spot on. Firstly I will be injecting it IM. I do not want to preload any syringes to store
    in the fridge as my dad might find them so would rather transfer to a vial to put in fridge.


    Q1. Am I correct in thinking that the 1ml solvent that comes with the HCG only lasts for a few days onced mixed so I could bin it and buy some Bacteriostatic
    Water instead which would then last about 1 month. Also these come in 30ml so how long will this water last; thinking of using for future cycles.

    Q2. Is this correct:-
    1. Will use a 1ml Syringe with 21G (Green) needle for drawing
    2. Break open the 5000iu HCG amp with the powder.
    3. Use Syringe/Needle to withdraw 1ml from BW vial
    4. Slowly Inj the BW down side of HCG amp with powder in
    5. Withdraw the newly mixed HCG into same syringe
    6. Inject it into brand new sealed 10ml Vial
    7. Withdraw another 1ml of BW & inject into sealed vial. Repeat 3 times so put in 4ml
    8. Sealed vial now contains a total of 5ml BW giving 1000iu per ml
    9. Shake vial??? Read this but also read that you have to be careful when constructing
    10. Withdraw 0.5ml (500iu) from vial then switch needle to 25G (Orange) and inject IM

    Q3. Are you meant to inject straight from the fridge cold or wait a bit to heat up a liitle bit

    Q4. Is the Nolvadex necessary to take along with the HCG or is the Aromasin enough?

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    I understand that you usually use a slin pin and inject Sub Q but would rather use this method if it is correct. Also appreciate any comments/views on cycle, PCT

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    Q1 - Yes you are correct thinking that - about 6months to a year is the longest id keep it

    Q2 - Never shake, just gentrly swirl - search youtube for a vid on how to make up HCG.

    Q3 - Either.. But slightly warmer will be in tune with ya body temp.

    Q4 - Yes it is needed.
    Last edited by shifty_git; 02-12-2008 at 08:11 AM.

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    heres a link to a vid on youtube...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APbVamiW0hM

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    Good post shifty...

    Yea Question 4 ..... HCG is suppressive ( on 17-alpha-hydroxyprogesterone ).. Nolva helps to block it's suppressive nature...

    Read this thread if you haven't .. It has lots of good info ..

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ny+roberts+pct


    Merc.

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    Thanks for the very quick replies. Will read the links you gave me. Just one question that I forgot to ask. Is Vitamin E supp necessary whilst taking the HCG and if so why?

    Many Thanks

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    the water you need to reconstitute HCG is bacteriostatic water.

    Calculating HCG:

    There isn't a specific ratio of cc/ml to IU. It depends on how you mix it. It's quite simple. If you dillute 5,000 IUs HCG with 5ml (cc) solvent, the end result is 1,000 IUs per ml (cc). Divide the same 5,000 IUs with 10 ml (cc) and the end result is 500 IUs per ml (cc). Therefore, a large part depends on the concentration of HCG per ampoule or vial.

    Mixing HCG:
    (Items needed: bacwater h20 and some 5ml emty vials-get****).

    1) Open hcg/amp with powder
    2) Use a syringe to pull out 1cc of BacWater and put in amp with HCG
    3) It will instantly dissolve
    4) Then Use an empty 5ml vial (sterile and sealed) put 4ml of Bacwater in the vial
    5) Take syringe and ad the mixed HCG solution to the 5ml vial
    6) Shake it and you have 5000IU's of HCG
    7) Than draw 1cc and inject
    8) put the rest in the refrigerator

    •The reason your discarding the amp of solvent cause its made for 1 times use and you wouldn’t be able to refrigerate it and use it a week later again. That’s why you need Bac H2o.
    •The most common side affect associated with HCG is gynecomastia. The concurrent intake of Nolvadex with HCG prevents gynecomastia, prevents/minimizes leydig cell desensitization and contiues the stimulation of pituitary LH once HCG has been discontinued.
    •HCG will last approximately 30 days if mixed with Bac h2o instead of the solvent it comes with.
    •You can keep the mixed hcg in vial or pins In the fridge till use

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    Many Thanks

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