Tes/epitest Ratio Q????

[HammerofHammurabi]

When taking a short ester or no ester test (prop/suspension), for 6 weeks at 100mg/Day, how long does it take test/epittest levels to reach a ratio around 6:1?

cycle could be 100mg test susp/day for 6 weeks.

[CheddaNips]

are you worried about a drug test man?

[HammerofHammurabi]

are you worried about a drug test man?

That is correct. And if you have any knowledge on the topic I would appreciate it. a google search resulted in 10 pages of "Legitimate online sellers of testosterone!"

[HammerofHammurabi]

sorry for the bump, but anyone know the answer to my previous question?

[10nispro]

What are your stat? And why 700mg of test/wk?

[HammerofHammurabi]

What are your stat? And why 700mg of test/wk?

I'm looking at test suspension so bi-daily injections. I'm 6'3.5 to 6'4, 270 lbs 15-16% bf. Other stats you wish to know?

[taiboxa]

you really dont need to administer suspen 2x a day.
1x a.m. will usually suffice.

[10nispro]

When do you get tested? If its not until after the summer, you should be ok, as long as you run a good pct.

[HammerofHammurabi]

When do you get tested? If its not until after the summer, you should be ok, as long as you run a good pct.

I came across this

http://www.freakzonline.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=21619

and near the bottom someone (a total stranger who could be full of shit on the internet) stated it takes 4-6 weeks. The cycle would begin in may and end in late june with testing August 24th.

I read and have been told test suspension is going to create the largest estrogen related side affects. Would Nolvadex + Proviron be the best PCT? On that note, would a nolvadex only pct work, I can come across nolva much easier than proviron since I am from the boonies.

Thanks for the replies, appreciate the help.

[HammerofHammurabi]

you really dont need to administer suspen 2x a day.
1x a.m. will usually suffice.

alright thanks for the fyi

[10nispro]

I have never uses proviron but some like it. I use examestane(aromasin) and you can get that from ar-r.com.(board sponsor). I also use tamoxifen(nolva). I think you will be ok to run the cycle, but, if you are worried, start the cycle a couple of weeks earlier.

[HammerofHammurabi]

I have never uses proviron but some like it. I use examestane(aromasin) and you can get that from ar-r.com.(board sponsor). I also use tamoxifen(nolva). I think you will be ok to run the cycle, but, if you are worried, start the cycle a couple of weeks earlier.

thanks for the advice. I read anthony roberts PCT and looked into that. My next concern is the detectability of my PCT. Nolvadex is around 3 weeks but I have no idea about aromasin. Thoughts.

I truly appreciate the help. There is A TON of information on aas that I have taken in in the past two weeks. I have been training for years but steroids were never a feassible option until recent.

[HammerofHammurabi]

I did some more research and came across this article. Don't know if anyone has looked it over but I would appreciate if someone else helped me with my conclusions.

http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/reprint/43/5/731.pdf

It is an article arguing for T/LH ratio tests rather than T/Epitest ratios to determineif an athlete has used steroids. The article shows the half-life of Test Cypionate (Active life of 14 to 16 days) to be on average around 7 days.

Table 1. Elimination half-life of free testosterone in
19 subjects.
Subject TC dose, mg/week Free T elimination half-life, days
2455 250 8.2
2908 250 6.0
3058 250 6.4
3626 250 4.8
5361 250 6.4
9298 250 6.4
0030 250 14.1
1078 500 6.0
2166 500 5.0
3415 500 7.3
4008 500 7.8
4045 500 4.9
4249 500 4.8
5340 500 7.4
6218 500 Not available
6534 500 6.8
9338 500 5.5
0153 500 4.2
0012 500 Not available

With the first number being the subject, second amount of test mg/week (it was run for 14 weeks I believe) and second number being half life of free test following last injection. Essentially after 8 weeks of weekly 500mg doses of Test Cyp, you can pass a drug test. It goes on to say that the T/E ratio after 9 weeks of being off was 94% of the time saying no illicit use had happened, WHILE A T/E PISS TEST WAS ONLY CORRECT 54% OF THE TIME AT IDENTIFYING USE (T/E level >=6) DURING THE CYCLE!

If you read the article, would you ome to the same conclusion I would? If you took test prop (a shorter active life) than test cyp, and you are a tested athlete, it would be real hard for you to fail a T/E test. Barring you haddn't taken test in the last week, you should be good.


Just an interesting article for any tested athletes out there.