First Stack Ever Is This Good???

[qcmuscles]

I got 2 bottles of Winny 50mg/ml one equipose 250mg/ml and one test enathe 300 mg/ml.

I was thinkin of thinkin all this for 10 weeks so 100mg of winny per week, 250mg of eq per week and 300 mg test enathe per week is this a good first stack?

I'm 25 years old good physique trained on and off for a lot of time, high endurance being a farmer worker, and highly sportive when I was young.

I'm 5,8 200 pounds but not that fat for real a lot of it is mass and muscle.

[VWbug66]

scratch all that out man.
you will need 2 more bottles of the test enanthate.
save the winny and eq. plus eq needs to be ran at 500-600 a week to notice anything, and it needs to be ran for 12 weeks..

so just get 2 more bottles of test, and go with 500-600mg a week for 10-12 weeks. save the winny and eq for another cycle down on the road.

[IvanDrago]

Pct???

[Panzerfaust80]

damn soviets... should've taken em at stalingrad

what r ur goals? I think that dictates more than nething what type of cycle u should be doing mr. drago.

[longhorn814]

what are your goals? whats your diet look like? I suggest you do some research first as your proposed cycle isnt good for a couple reasons...typically first cycle is something like 4-500mg/wk of test e for 10-12 weeks followed by proper PCT..i suggest you learn what PCT is too

[VWbug66]

oh shit haha i forgot to tell him bout pct!!

[djcj2002]

No doubt. I would def go with just test only for a first cycle. Get some more test e and line out a pct and then you'll be ready.

[VWbug66]

i second that

[qcmuscles]

The guy I got it from only has one bottle left of eq, and he said it was good for cutting, not as much as winny of course but good.

And I made a mistake, the test e is 250mg\ml and eq 300mg\ml.

I can give him back any bottles and change for another bottle if I want he could give me some other test if I want. Like I could change the two winny and eq for two test e and even it would cost me forty big ones less... So it would give me 625 mg/week for 12 weeks of test en only. Would it ne good then?? And give me details of why please.

PCT you mean clomid? I got nolvadex for if gyneco and clomid for after. I read a lot on steroid.com and took some notes.

My diet is great I think: I always take multivitamins and high quality protein, vegetables, fruits, a little yogurt soya milk, really low fat and when I do buy chocolate cookies (once a month) I choose them without trans fat. I really eat well to be fair, and I only drink spring water. No coffee, no drugs, not even a tylenol, no alcohol, no candies, no cigarettes. I never take any boost drink or anything with cafein, I never go out in clubs, I take long walks in the woods, I read a lot, I'm really a calm guy, I like to meditate and relax, so I think this cycle can work great on me cuz of my life habits.

My goals are to get bigger, 10 pounds or more of muscle, but I'm really athletic and weight training is giving results already without gear. I want to lose about 25 pounds of fat, throught the steroids, and over the next months. I lost 15 pounds in the last 6 months I'm 195 not 200 like I wrote, and I was 210 last spring, and more it goes, more I train and harder. Since I know you either gotta choose between bulking and cutting, I think the little bulking will flip some of my fat to muscle and I'll lose the rest with cardio and good diet. So I'd like to weight 185 after, not 100% cut I know I would not be just with test e and a heavy training program but more defined. Bigger deltoids defined chest and a better V on my back are my priorities.

What if i kept the eq bottle and take another test e bottle and let got the two winny bottles. It would make 500mg test e and 300 mg eq per week for ten weeks. Or i could take 400 mg test e and 250 mg eq for twelve weeks?

[qcmuscles]

bump

[hobbs9963]

scratch all that out man.
you will need 2 more bottles of the test enanthate.
save the winny and eq. plus eq needs to be ran at 500-600 a week to notice anything, and it needs to be ran for 12 weeks..

so just get 2 more bottles of test, and go with 500-600mg a week for 10-12 weeks. save the winny and eq for another cycle down on the road.

I agree.

[shifty_git]

The guy I got it from only has one bottle left of eq, and he said it was good for cutting, not as much as winny of course but good.

And I made a mistake, the test e is 250mg\ml and eq 300mg\ml.

I can give him back any bottles and change for another bottle if I want he could give me some other test if I want. Like I could change the two winny and eq for two test e and even it would cost me forty big ones less... So it would give me 625 mg/week for 12 weeks of test en only. Would it ne good then?? And give me details of why please.

PCT you mean clomid? I got nolvadex for if gyneco and clomid for after. I read a lot on steroid.com and took some notes.

My diet is great I think: I always take multivitamins and high quality protein, vegetables, fruits, a little yogurt soya milk, really low fat and when I do buy chocolate cookies (once a month) I choose them without trans fat. I really eat well to be fair, and I only drink spring water. No coffee, no drugs, not even a tylenol, no alcohol, no candies, no cigarettes. I never take any boost drink or anything with cafein, I never go out in clubs, I take long walks in the woods, I read a lot, I'm really a calm guy, I like to meditate and relax, so I think this cycle can work great on me cuz of my life habits.

My goals are to get bigger, 10 pounds or more of muscle, but I'm really athletic and weight training is giving results already without gear. I want to lose about 25 pounds of fat, throught the steroids, and over the next months. I lost 15 pounds in the last 6 months I'm 195 not 200 like I wrote, and I was 210 last spring, and more it goes, more I train and harder. Since I know you either gotta choose between bulking and cutting, I think the little bulking will flip some of my fat to muscle and I'll lose the rest with cardio and good diet. So I'd like to weight 185 after, not 100% cut I know I would not be just with test e and a heavy training program but more defined. Bigger deltoids defined chest and a better V on my back are my priorities.

What if i kept the eq bottle and take another test e bottle and let got the two winny bottles. It would make 500mg test e and 300 mg eq per week for ten weeks. Or i could take 400 mg test e and 250 mg eq for twelve weeks?

Then keep going natty untill you hit a plateau....utilize what ya body has to offer first.

While your doing that research, research, research.. it will all pay off.

[qcmuscles]

I don't want to train for 10 years straight to have maybe 50% the look of a guy whos been on gear for 3 months I mean cmon I cant believe someone here would reply me that.

There's nobody I know who have a decent physique who didnt used gear. Well maybe some but they just wont admit it.

I mean I said results, I never said my arms took an inch over a month. I lost 15 pounds of fat with cardio over 6 months, but that was mostly overweight, since I'm pretty close to my health weight it's gonna be hard to keep up that pace. If humans could lose 15 pounds each 6 months I would die next year. Cmon do I really have to explain myself here on that subject?

Maybe 0,01% of guys on this planet have extremely good natural testosterone and an already bodybuilder looking physique naturally. I'm athletic like a lot of guys, but not Arny.

And listen, I waited a long time to decide myself to do this, though about it a lot, don't try to make me change my mind now, anyway I'm not here to debate the use, I'm gonna make it my mind is made. What I need is advices, not moral 101.

Now please give me advice about my cycle I'm not a 16 years old kid who want to impress his friends. I'm 25 years old fully grown and I've pretty much hit a ''plateau'' like you say...

And I've done A LOT of research but it's hard to decide everyone gives different advices about every product. Everyone say they are right and everyone else is wrong so.

That's why I asked you guys to tell me what is good or wrong about my stack before I do it.

[qcmuscles]

bump

[STEROIDMD]

Guys r just trying to give u good advise. A lot of people just jump on a cycle without knowing what the f**ck they r doing. No idea of pct, ect... That said if ur mind is made up ur 1st cylce should be something like a long ester test only (like test e). Then u can add more compounds to ur future cylces. U can make great gains on test alone on ur 1st cycle...see how it works for u. If u use 2-3 differnet compounds all at once u won't know what works for u and how well.
It does sound like u have A LOT more research to do. And check out Anthony Roberts thread on PCT's. Good Luck.

[HuntMan]

Hey I have a 10ml Bottle of Deca 300 and Was wondering everything else i would need to have a complete good strength bulking cycle. I don't have any more money for good stuff right now, will a basic tribulus with higher doses qualify for enough test for a ten week cycle.?? And What about vitamins?? any milk thistle or flaxseed oil?? Im not looking to become big time i just need to bust through some plateas. 6'0'' 211. I know my diet and protein intake is perfect. And what kind of gains can i expect with this, i guess low dosage cycle?? Bench;285, Squat;435, Clean;275, Deadlift;500.

[dupa95]

Oh Boy

[HuntMan]

?????I know i don't know a hole lot just a little help please.

[dupa95]

Knowlage is power Read read read no one guna spoon feed ya

[ChuckLee]

?????I know i don't know a hole lot just a little help please.

You should try to click the magic button "New Thread" and stop hijacking other's thread. Then someone will be glad to help you.

CL

[dupa95]

You should try to click the magic button "New Thread" and stop hijacking other's thread. Then someone will be glad to help you.

CL

agreed

[ChuckLee]

To the threadstarter:
If you train straight 10 years on proper diet and let your natty gains go on, you should gain a lot more than someone on all the gears of the world for three months. I wish my natural employment didn't stop time ago...

[STEROIDMD]

Hey I have a 10ml Bottle of Deca 300 and Was wondering everything else i would need to have a complete good strength bulking cycle. I don't have any more money for good stuff right now, will a basic tribulus with higher doses qualify for enough test for a ten week cycle.?? And What about vitamins?? any milk thistle or flaxseed oil?? Im not looking to become big time i just need to bust through some plateas. 6'0'' 211. I know my diet and protein intake is perfect. And what kind of gains can i expect with this, i guess low dosage cycle?? Bench;285, Squat;435, Clean;275, Deadlift;500.

[STEROIDMD]

U have a lot of reading to do HuntMan.