Test E + Winstrol

[kingwilliam]

30 years old, 5'10, 198lbs BF 14-16%

I have worked out and been physically active my whole life. For the last year I have been very active in the gym lifting.

I have considered doing my first cycle for a while now and a guy from the gym suggested that I do Test Enth + Winstrol.

I have a few basic questions:

1. Where should I store the stuff?? (as far as temp and lighting)

2. I got the test tonight, but it is going to be 4 or 5 days before the Win comes in, should i go ahead and get started with the E?

3. How "puffy" will an 8 week cycle make me? Should I supplement something to reduce the fluid retention?

also I would like to add that my goal here is to gain some mass and to be a little more cut up before summer

I know all these questions are repeats, but I have been scouring this and other forums for weeks and my eyes are starting to hurt


Thanks

[djcj2002]

Are you planning on running just 8 weeks of the Test-E? Personally, I wouldn't run anything less than 12. You won't see results until about week 4-5.

[kingwilliam]

Well actually I think the amount of test that I have is enough for 10 weeks.......so when the winstrol runs out should I finish off the Test, or should I start the winstrol after week 2 of the test?

Thanks again and I apologize for the extreme newb ?'s

[djcj2002]

Bro, just outline your proposed cycle. Include dosages. THis will better help everyone in giving you valuable advice.

[mario_ps2]

Are you planning on running just 8 weeks of the Test-E? Personally, I wouldn't run anything less than 12. You won't see results until about week 4-5.

Well if you frontload with test e, you will start seeing
results on the 2nd week from my experience.

Test e does BLOAT you but it will go away after the cycle is finished.

[kingwilliam]

Test 300mg ew
Win 50mg daily

So when the bloating goes away will it reveal a defined physique?? I have always heard that win is a good "cutting" agent.........

[djcj2002]

It will harden you. How cut you get depends on your diet. EVERYTHING depends on training and diet.

[kingwilliam]

cool...thanks a bunch. As far as the diet goes, I have that covered. My diet for the last 6 months or so has basically consisted of around 2500 cals a day, high protein, good carbs

[djcj2002]

What are you planning for your pct? You do know that it is a must.

[kingwilliam]

Yes, I am aware. I have studied the PCT threads in detail and I have a good idea of what I will need.

One other question-

I just realized that in about 3 weeks I have to go out of town for 4 days for work...................................what is the best solution for when you cant take your stuff with you?? Is it okay just to pick up where you left off when you get back? I always work out even if it's in a hotel gym

[djcj2002]

It prob won't affect you at all on your test e. You'll lose a little with the winny, but should be ok to pick back up.

[kingwilliam]

Thanks alot, man. I will post my progress over the next couple of months.

[Njord]

Well if you frontload with test e, you will start seeing
results on the 2nd week from my experience.

Test e does BLOAT you but it will go away after the cycle is finished.

I have ran Test E, Sustanon, Phenyl Prop and Prop and have never experienced any bloat at all. It's all individual.

[Gears]

Sample cycle from: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

1 – 10 Enan 500mg/wk
7 – 12 Winny 50mg ED
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Looks like people take it toward the end of their cycle since it is used moreso for cutting. I would imagine because its oral/toxic, it`s not ran through the entire cycle.