I'm running 75mg ed of test no ester.
(not suspension, its dissolved in EO/BB/BA)
Has anyone run similar TNE before and when did it kick in for you?
Only started yesterday but I'm wondering if it being a solution will delay things for me?
I'm running 75mg ed of test no ester.
(not suspension, its dissolved in EO/BB/BA)
Has anyone run similar TNE before and when did it kick in for you?
Only started yesterday but I'm wondering if it being a solution will delay things for me?
no it will not
did u feel anything after your first shot ? horny possibly ? pumps ?
No ester is a pure test bro...it should kick quick...suspension is a good compound...works great for me pre contest..
Never used it personaly but id assume n a day or 2 u should really notice a pump
notice -its NOT suspension.
it's a home brewed SOLUTION.
wasn't sure if it would take a bit longer,.
thansk for the replies
Last edited by Princes_Gate; 02-26-2008 at 02:57 PM.
When using a rub on test suspension it kicks in within an hour or two. If injected it should be even faster.
I thought suspension was a test with no ester?
As was noted before, testosterone can be considered one of the most powerful mass builders and testosterone suspension can be considered one of the most powerful of the testosterones simply due to the fact that it has no attached ester.
No ester means its just test suspended in solution correct?
Testosterone suspension is when its suspended in water.
I made Testosterone solution.
So yeah, its test with no ester but I just wondered if a solution would be slower to absorb since its dissolved in EO which I've heard can slow absorption
The one thing about Test S. Is that it can cause servere acne
its test no ester. active immediately. levels will be up and down. best injected at least 2x a day. ive never seen it used in such a solution, but im hoping you know what your doing.
~DB~
solution... suspension... the only differnce (if i remember my chemistry classes right) is that in water, test does not dissolve. It "suspends". In solution, it does. Its a moot point i believe, but i would be interested to know if it would change the action of the test... however if i had to guess, id say no. Id use it as i would suspension (which i dont really anymore.... to many injects lol)
~DB~
Thats what I figured. Test without an ester. You have it suspended in Ethyl Oleate correct?
Yeah its in EO.
Apparently EO is quite slow to absorb so hopefully 1x a day injections will be quite successful
Yeah, should be fine with 1x a day. You can get away with test suspension 1x a day as well but SHOULD be shot 2-3 times a day.
Just found that, so it does appear to slow absorption, I wasn't sure if it was a homebrewers myth or not"Pfizer Central Research, Sandwich, UK.
The pharmacokinetics of doramectin, a novel avermectin, were evaluated following parenteral administration in a range of oil-based formulations in an attempt to optimise the formulation. Therapeutic and persistent efficacies against Cooperia oncophora were also evaluated. This approach led to the identification of formulations based upon sesame oil and ethyl oleate which gave more prolonged doramectin plasma concentrations with no loss in therapeutic efficacy and improved persistent efficacy following subcutaneous administration to cattle at a dosage of 200 micrograms kg-1. The importance of using both pharmacokinetic and efficacy end points to distinguish between formulations is discussed. All formulations were well tolerated as evidenced by the absence of any reaction to injection either in the form of behavioural responses, injection site swelling or postmortem lesions. Sesame oil with ethyl oleate was the best parenteral vehicle tested for doramectin, allowing the expression of a high level of therapeutic and persistent efficacy and offering the benefit of excellent injection site toleration."
I brewed some myself, one at 50mg/ml and another at 75mg/ml. I have only seen one lab make test solution. I can't say how good it is tho.
What recipe did you use Princes Gate? This is what I used 10%BA 40%BB 75/25 EO/GSO mix. Its holding up, and just needs to be filtered, it just takes alot of heat to get it to work tho. What did you use on urs?
40% bb 5% ba and the rest EO. did take a bit of heat to dissolve but is holding in a cool room now
Yeah, I had to heat mine in the oven, its good because its a resilient hormone its melting temp is about 155C so it takes a bit. I made a batch and it was perfectly clear no problems and then it started coming out of solution today just a few crystal in the vial. Basically my GSO turned from a pale yellow to a golden yellow, and its held pretty good at 75mg/ml. I just gotta wait to filter them both so I can begin my research.
How long did it take to kick in? And how long ru running it for Princes?
started it today.
haven't noticed much yet to be honest
You should notice the effects within an hour or 2 wicked pumps from my exp. and ive made my own.
Ya'll gotta stop talkin about this lol, I got 40ml of 50 and 75mg/ml waiting to be filtered so I can have my turn lol. Plus I got a vial of IGF waiting to be reconstituted lol.
What recipe did you use to make yours Big Jack?
so have we come to the conclusion that test suspension is water based only and test with no ester in anything else is called test solution.
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