2nd cycle - Project: "Rebuild"

[Towel]

Hi bro's I was away for a while. My first cycle was a disaster lol! I totally lost my motivation and everything. I stoped eating and I didin't lift heavy. Part of it because i had some problems in life and I was busy and stuff. Anyway I lost almost everything i gained from my last cycle. what a shame. Since a week or two I am getting motivated to go back into beast mode! I see my next cycle coming...it's time to rebuild what i lost!

current status: pathetic


cycle:
Week 1-13: Test E - 500mg/EW
Week 1-12: Bold - 600mg/EW
Week 10-15: Mast E - 300mg/EW
Week 1-6: Slin - 10IU PWO/ED

pct:
Week 12-15: HCG - 500IU/E3D
Week 12-15: Nolvadex - 20mg/ED (HCG)
Week 15-16: Nolvadex - 40mg/ED
Week 17-20: Nolvadex - 20mg/ED
Week 15-20: Clomid - 50mg/ED
Week 15-20: Slin - 10IU PWO/ED
Week 15: Vit B12 - 100mcg/ED
Week 16-19: Vit B12 - 100mcd/E3D

ok let me explain how i came with all this. First of Test E 500mg EW. Should be enough for my second time. It's the basic compound of the cycle. I am going to run it for 13 weeks since I add a additional compound next to it. Which is bold. Since bold has a verry long ester I have to take it at least for 12 weeks for some results. So that explains also why I am going to take Test for 13 weeks. Bold is dosed at 600mg EW, should be enough. More than that i believe will not do much better. It's going to be a clean bulk cycle. I am not looking for bloated gains. Like last time when I did test/deca. I am aiming for 11-12 pounds of mass with goal being able to hold on to most of what i gained. Anyway I add some slin because it makes me horny :P I believe it's a verry good compound and if you know how to use it it will have great benefits. Increse of metabolism, nutrition pusher, increase of protein synthese etc. I have worked with it before so. I am going to shoot 10-12iu post pwo. First 6 weeks of the cycle en first 6 weeks of pct. I will finish the last 4 weeks of the cycle with masteron. I did this because i want to get out out of the cycle sharp and hard and I want to lose the possible estrogen buildup whick makes me go crazy and emo when doing pct. And getting rid of the estrogen will have positive effect on recovery. As for the pct i will run 4 weeks HCG first in the last 4 weeks of the cycle. To boost up LH and fix shrunken balls. After that i will run 6 weeks nolvadex en clomid. I will also shoot some vitb12 in pct for appetite.

well thats it. Any input is welcome. If anyone is intrested i will keep a log.

[ChuckLee]

Hi bro's I was away for a while. My first cycle was a disaster lol! I totally lost my motivation and everything. I stoped eating and I didin't lift heavy. Part of it because i had some problems in life and I was busy and stuff. Anyway I lost almost everything i gained from my last cycle. what a shame. Since a week or two I am getting motivated to go back into beast mode! I see my next cycle coming...it's time to rebuild what i lost!

current status: pathetic...so? stats?



cycle:
Week 1-13: Test E - 500mg/EW
Week 1-12: Bold - 600mg/EW
Week 10-15: Mast E - 300mg/EW
Week 1-6: Slin - 10IU PWO/ED

pct:
Week 12-15: HCG - 500IU/E3D
Week 12-15: Nolvadex - 20mg/ED (HCG)
Week 15-16: Nolvadex - 40mg/ED
Week 17-20: Nolvadex - 20mg/ED
Week 15-20: Clomid - 50mg/ED
Week 15-20: Slin - 10IU PWO/ED
Week 15: Vit B12 - 100mcg/ED
Week 16-19: Vit B12 - 100mcd/E3D

ok let me explain how i came with all this. First of Test E 500mg EW. Should be enough for my second time. Why not...
It's the basic compound of the cycle. I am going to run it for 13 weeks since I add a additional compound next to it. Which is bold. Since bold has a verry long ester I have to take it at least for 12 weeks for some results. Read about 10 weeks at least
So that explains also why I am going to take Test for 13 weeks. Bold is dosed at 600mg EW, should be enough. More than that i believe will not do much better. Enough
It's going to be a clean bulk cycle. I am not looking for bloated gains. Like last time when I did test/deca. I am aiming for 11-12 pounds of mass with goal being able to hold on to most of what i gained. Anyway I add some slin because it makes me horny :P I believe it's a verry good compound and if you know how to use it it will have great benefits. So if you REALLY know how to use it, you should also know it souldn't be taken for more than 4 weeks...
Increse of metabolism, nutrition pusher, increase of protein synthese etc. I have worked with it before so. I am going to shoot 10-12iu post pwo.No need to go so high, most use 8IU
First 6 weeks of the cycle en first 6 weeks of pct.See above
I will finish the last 4 weeks of the cycle with masteron. I did this because i want to get out out of the cycle sharp and hard and I want to lose the possible estrogen buildup whick makes me go crazy and emo when doing pct.Good
And getting rid of the estrogen will have positive effect on recovery. As for the pct i will run 4 weeks HCG first in the last 4 weeks of the cycle. To boost up LH and fix shrunken balls. After that i will run 6 weeks nolvadex en clomid. I will also shoot some vitb12 in pct for appetite. I'd follow Robert's PCT protocol: more simple and effective

well thats it. Any input is welcome. If anyone is intrested i will keep a log.

Comments in bold.

See ya.

CL

[Towel]

hehe i knew someone would flame me on the slin
i worked my way up to 12iu. For me 10-12 was a verry effective dose. I am not saying i know everything. I am saying i know enough to not get myself killed with this stuff. 4 weeks on 4 weeks off is possible and so is 6 weeks on and 6weeks off. My reason for 6 weeks on/off is because it's easier to plan it for 10-12 week long cycles. Seen enough people do it. As for that i only shoot it PWO. which makes it 4 times in the week. Believe me when i say that's nothing compared what protocols i see some people work with (amature) The pct is pretty much based on what i have read of roberts pct. I also can't get aromasin or anything like that. Thats also the reason why i wanted to finish it of with masteron. Well now that you say at least 10 weeks bold, should i change the plan? go for like 10 weeks bold and 12 test? I thought bold had even a longer ester than deca, thats why i figured i should go for 12.

well ok if you really want to now my current stats:
181 pound
5' 9"
bf dunno see avatar

thx

[longhorn814]

are you using masteron e or masteron prop? You have e listed and you'll need to run it longer than 5 weeks..its an enanthate esters just like youre test..you need at least 10 weeks..your PCT start times confuse me..why are you starting at week 12?

[ChuckLee]

I see no need to run slin more than 3-4 weeks in my personal experience, but it's just me, slin makes me easily fat, even reducing fats.
For the Bold, the undecylenate (EQ) has a half life similar to Test E, 7-9 days, so I return on what I've said before.

CL

[Towel]

are you using masteron e or masteron prop? You have e listed and you'll need to run it longer than 5 weeks..its an enanthate esters just like youre test..you need at least 10 weeks..your PCT start times confuse me..why are you starting at week 12?

yes you are totally right about the masteron. yes it's enanthate. I totally missed that part hehe. Hmm..what should i do. What do you prefer? Should i go for Mast prop last 4 weeks or should i go for Mast E for 10 weeks? But i think adding another 10weeks mast e is bit of overkill. Ow wait i see that already was aware of the faqt but i wrote 4 weeks down in the comment below. It says week 10-15. Which is 6 weeks on Mast E. You think it will do?

well the reason why i start pct at week 12. Which then I will start HCG en a little bit nolvadex is that read that HCG is best to be taken in the cycle. Since it also supresses your hpta. And after that I will start a standaard pct protocol. See x_moe's HCG sticky: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=292564

I see no need to run slin more than 3-4 weeks in my personal experience, but it's just me, slin makes me easily fat, even reducing fats.
For the Bold, the undecylenate (EQ) has a half life similar to Test E, 7-9 days, so I return on what I've said before.

CL

No problem. Everyone is different bro. All the info is just a guideline. I never turned more significantly fat while using slin. What ever works best for you

[Towel]

no wait this is not going to work. If i take mast enanthate i got to to stop it 2 weeks before PCT. I will go for prop. Since i already have to inject twice a week. I am not going to inject 5ml or so at once. So I will go for mast prop and do 150mg twice a week. for 6 weeks. So i also dont have to change the week planning now. I think this will do

Week 10-15: Mast Prop - 300mg/EW