Looking for honest, educated suggestions on my cycle

[tailspin69]

Hey guys, here's my planned 10 week cycle. Please let me know if there are areas that I could improve, as well as any anything I may have missed. I have read up on the forums here as well as others, and have done my best to educate myself before coming here to post this.

And now, without further ado, my cycle:

Weeks 1-10:
Testosterone Cypionate, 500mg/wk
Equipoise, 400mg/wk

Add to weeks 1-4:
Arimidex, 1mg/day

Add to weeks 5-12:
Arimidex, .5mg/day

PCT:
Weeks 12-14:
Nolvadex, 20mg/day
Arimidex, .25/day

Weeks 15-16:
Nolvadex, 10mg/day
Arimidex, .25 EOD

You'll notice that I let Arimidex bridge weeks 10-12, from the last time I shoot my AAS, to when I start my PCT. Do you think this is a good idea or no? Also, is my PCT long enough?


I am 5'9", 180# (182# this morning), 9-11% bf, and have been training for the last 5 years. I have had experience with PHs in the past, but never tried gear before. I'd like to remain relatively lean and not pack on too much puffyness, but I realize that some is probably likely, given the amt of calories and protein I'll be shoveling into my mouth.

Thanks for all the help, I look forward to hearing what y'all have to say!

[Lemonada8]

All i can say is make sure your diet is good but it seems like it will be, so best of luck!

[longhorn814]

personally I would run the test for 13 weeks and the Eq for 12..need a one week difference for PCT start times to line up accordingly..i wouldnt use an AI on cycle either unless you feel like you need it..some estrogen is actually beneficial to making good gains..

[Njord]

Why all the Arimidex during cycle?

I would recommend test only for first cycle.

PCT looks good. (What's the ester for EQ?, might have to adjust pct start time)

[tailspin69]

My thoughts on using the Arimidex during the cycle was to minimize puffyness and water retention, as well as keeping my balls from vanishing. Should I eliminate it altogether, reduce the amount, or start it later in the cycle?

Thank you, Longhorn, for your suggestion on running them longer and staggering my end dates to line up with the PCT start date.

[longhorn814]

yeah I wouldnt use an AI with that cycle..here's a good read on estrogen

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=319202

[Njord]

Read this: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=merc+estrogen.

If you experience bloat while on cycle and want to keep it under control, by all means use an AI. I would have the A-dex on hand and only use it is undesired symptoms appear.
Using an AI during cycle will have no effect on testicular atrophy (vanishing balls as you call it)

[Njord]

Longhorn, either you type too fast, or I too slow.

[longhorn814]

Longhorn, either you type too fast, or I too slow.

great minds think alike!!

[tailspin69]

Super, thank you guys for the info!

So what does help minimize testicular atrophy?

[Njord]

Super, thank you guys for the info!

So what does help minimize testicular atrophy?

HCG..

[Sculpture]

I wouldn't use any estrogen suppression during the cycle unless my nipples started to hurt. It will limit gains, lower hgh and igf-1, lower your immune system and stress your joints. Just have it onhand incase your gyno prone and dont use it unless you have to. Don't know about you but it makes much more sense to me that way. I'm on 750mg per week sustanon, 600mg per week equipoise and 350mg per week deca with no estrogen blockers etc. and im having a GREAT cycle, not even bloated (except in my muscles)!!

[tailspin69]

Lol! Thank you, Sculpture It does make quite a bit of sense, actually. I suppose I had read about using Arimidex during a cycle on another board, and didn't really know why myself.

Good to hear the only part of you swole up is your muscles!

[shifty_git]

personally I would run the test for 13 weeks and the Eq for 12..need a one week difference for PCT start times to line up accordingly..i wouldnt use an AI on cycle either unless you feel like you need it..some estrogen is actually beneficial to making good gains..

longhorn hit it spot on!!

hang off that ai till you need it... the little longer cycle will really be worth it.

[flabbywussy]

eq doesn't kill my sex drive too much, and i hate bloat, so if it were my cycle i would drop the test down to 2-300mg/wk spllit injects x2.

just all lean gains, but thats just me

[flabbywussy]

i wouuld keep the arimidex personally. i like seeing my gains and knowing its lean muscle not just bloat

[longhorn814]

i wouuld keep the arimidex personally. i like seeing my gains and knowing its lean muscle not just bloat

not everybody bloats on test..i get very little unless i get over 750mg/wk..remember some estrogen is actually a GOOD thing and will help with your gains

[flabbywussy]

WOW BRO, HOW YA BEEN BUDDY! haha i haven't been on in awhile, but good to know there's still some same members here

i understand SOME estrogen is good, but i'm sure i'll still grow without it haha...i'm just not a big fan after my gyno surgery

not everybody bloats on test..i get very little unless i get over 750mg/wk..remember some estrogen is actually a GOOD thing and will help with your gains

[ChuckLee]

I think when you're going to run a bulk cycle based on test you shouldn't worry about the bloat you're going to achieve during cycle.
It can be removed on PCT with the proper use of an AI.
Otherwise I would include it on cycle only in case of gyno and when I can't use nolva for that purpose.

CL

[PT]

i wouuld keep the arimidex personally. i like seeing my gains and knowing its lean muscle not just bloat

i agree with you bro. i always run armidex or something with every bulker to try and keep the water down as much as possible. i cant stand that bloated look plus your bp can really skyrocket if you gain to much water and dont watch your sodium intake. i just personally would rather gain muscle rather then water even when bulking. i wasnt always like this though, when i was younger and lighter i just wanted every pound i can get and didnt care if it was water but those days are long gone

[tailspin69]

Thanks for all the input, guys. I'm going to redraft my cycle sometime today and put it up for review. I think I'll keep the Arimidex on hand anyway and see if I need it once everything starts kicking in midway through the cycle.