Tren Ace Muscle Pain

[the_patient]

Ok guys, I need some help. I am running a cycle under the advisement of the local gym guru and I am not sure if I should trust him or not. First I guess you need some stats. I am 5'9 265 at 30% body fat. This is my first cycle of tren ace and I am taking 150mg/ml two times a week. From what I have read 200mg to 400mg a week is the recommended dose if you aren't stacking it. I am mostly looking for the cutting effects of tren ace above anything else. My question is; I have a lot of pain in the injected muscle. Is that normal? It is a deep soreness, like I have just killed the muscle in the gym after not lifting for a longtime. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jimmy

[the_patient]

TTT yo

[nowdenlid]

Ok guys, I need some help. I am running a cycle under the advisement of the local gym guru and I am not sure if I should trust him or not. First I guess you need some stats. I am 5'9 265 at 30% body fat. This is my first cycle of tren ace and I am taking 150mg/ml two times a week. From what I have read 200mg to 400mg a week is the recommended dose if you aren't stacking it. I am mostly looking for the cutting effects of tren ace above anything else. My question is; I have a lot of pain in the injected muscle. Is that normal? It is a deep soreness, like I have just killed the muscle in the gym after not lifting for a longtime. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jimmy

wooooooooo...stop right there my man at 30% body fat you shouldent be running any sort of aas at all thats just a very bad idea.

tren a should be shot every other day or every day at 50mgs-150mgs depending on experiance...

you have no test in that cycle and i dont see any pct this is very very concerning...

[PT]

i personally wouldnt run a cycle with only tren but i have stacked it many times and never had pain from it like i do from certain brands of winny or prop

[the_patient]

I wanted to stack it but he said for what I am wanting to do with it I don't need to. Hell, this websites profile of tren ace says it is universally known for being a great stand alone steroid. I am injecting it every tue and thurs at 150 mg/ml as per him. I have read that it is better to do 150 mg/ml at .5 cc and take it every other day, or 3 to 4 times a week depending on how the days fall. My main concern is the muscle pain. I am shooting my quads though so you might need that info.

[PT]

you need to shoot it ed or eod. maybe it your gear. maybe he gave you bunk gear. do you have any redness or welts were you inject?

[naturalsux]

I wanted to stack it but he said for what I am wanting to do with it I don't need to. Hell, this websites profile of tren ace says it is universally known for being a great stand alone steroid. I am injecting it every tue and thurs at 150 mg/ml as per him. I have read that it is better to do 150 mg/ml at .5 cc and take it every other day, or 3 to 4 times a week depending on how the days fall. My main concern is the muscle pain. I am shooting my quads though so you might need that info.

you need to shoot everyday or every other day.

sometimes my shots hurt sometimes they do, i shoot everyday. i rotate quads, bis, and chest. chest is the least pain full to me. im shooting 50mg ed

[nowdenlid]

30% body fat forget about aas and get on cardio and diet.not to flame but its people like you that give steroids a bad name because your stats can only lead too bad side effects when useing a coupound you dont really know mutch about ......remember this is not a flame its just my two cents....

[the_patient]

I made myself using fina and a kit. I have no crystals in the solution and it injects easily. I have no redness or welts. No swelling. No noticeable side effects other than the pain in my quad. I am shooting myself so it is easily accessible as an injection site. I would prefer my arse, and that may be what I start doing.

[the_patient]

I am on a tight diet and I do 10 to 15 miles of cardio a week after I lift. All I am doing is using tren ace for "typically used primarily in cutting cycles, since it is a very potent fat-loss agent." I have been all natural until now, aside from the bs I can buy at the local GNC.

[the_patient]

BTW, I cut on my own from 41% to 30% before I started this.

[nowdenlid]

imo you should stay natural untill you get your body fat right down (about 14%)if you are comitedyou can do it natty.useing tren at 30% b/f is asking for troubble

[the_patient]

What kind of trouble are you talking about? I haven't seen anything that describes what your talking about.

[the_patient]

Why would you tell me "oh god don't do it man, bad side effects blah blah blah" and then when I ask what side effects because I haven't read about any with tren ace you leave? Oh well.

[nowdenlid]

Why would you tell me "oh god don't do it man, bad side effects blah blah blah" and then when I ask what side effects because I haven't read about any with tren ace you leave? Oh well.

there are lots of sides when running aas never mind with 30% bf/

high bb

high cholestral

gyno

theses side are very possable when runn aas at 30%b/f

[rabidsquirrel]

blood presure could be a problem. dont overweight people ussally have higher blood pressure? tren will most likely bring it higher. does me.

[rabidsquirrel]

well you beat me to it

[the_patient]

Dude, you do know that tren ace doesn't convert to estro and has one of the lowest gyno side effects of all steroids right? And I am assuming you meant high bp as in blood pressure. My blood pressure is 120 over 75 so it has some room to go up. As for high chol, you are right there and that is something you get with tren ace regardless of bodyfat percentage.

[Markosterone]

well, since you already started it, you might as well do it right...

shoot it EOD at maximum 150mg per shot. if I was you, I would add a litte testosterone to that, just to replace your own natural test.

[rabidsquirrel]

yes but if you already have high chol and it goes up higher that would be bad. these guys are only here to help you, we know your gonna do what you want but at least there taking the time to tell you how to do it right. good luck

[Njord]

Why would you tell me "oh god don't do it man, bad side effects blah blah blah" and then when I ask what side effects because I haven't read about any with tren ace you leave? Oh well.

From the profile:

Trenbolone is also resistant to the 5- alpha-reductase enzyme, this enzyme reduces some steroid hormones into a more androgenic form, in trenbolones case however this does not matter, trenbolone boasts an androgenic ratio of 500, it can easily cause adverse androgenic side effects in any steroid.com members who are prone cases of hair loss, prostate enlargement, oily skin and acne have been reported. Unfortunately trenbolones potential negative side effects do not end there. Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sensitive steroid.com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth

Add in: Night sweats, insomnia, bad cholesterol values.

Complete shutdown of your body's natural testosterone production (can you say impotence and lack of libido.

Beside that, not too many side effects.

[the_patient]

Why does everybody say that about the test thing? Tren ace is a test from the nandrolone family. What am I missing? Why do I need to stack it with another test?

[Markosterone]

oh, I forgot.

I always get pain from test prop and tren, doesnt matter what muscle.
a friend of mine shoots same gear and doesnt get any pain at all.

wierd huh..

I guess some people just get pain and some dont...

[the_patient]

yes but if you already have high chol and it goes up higher that would be bad. these guys are only here to help you, we know your gonna do what you want but at least there taking the time to tell you how to do it right. good luck

I dig man. As for night sweats, acne, oily skin, etc. I haven't had any of that so far. Just the damn injection site pain.

[the_patient]

I assumed the pain was because it was a large dose and in the quad. But from what it sounds like this soreness is normal.

[Njord]

Why does everybody say that about the test thing? Tren ace is a test from the nandrolone family. What am I missing? Why do I need to stack it with another test?

Tren ace is not testosterone. Only testosterone is testosterone.

[the_patient]

Trenbolone is a 19-nor derived steroid, in the 19-nor Testosterone (Nandrolone) family. In fact, Trenbolone is structurally similar to Deca-Durabolin, differing in the fact that it has a c-9 and c-11 double bond. How is not a test?

[soulstealer]

I assumed the pain was because it was a large dose and in the quad. But from what it sounds like this soreness is normal.

Dude check that whole progesterone side part... as growing tits wont be least of it your new "breasts" will start lactating through your shirt... at 30% body fat you have a much higher risk of this.. especially with your levels all over the place from twice a week injection... If you insist on continuing you should be going ED or EOD and include an AI to thwart the risk of being able to milk yourself like a cow.... Mooo

[soulstealer]

Trenbolone is a 19-nor derived steroid, in the 19-nor Testosterone (Nandrolone) family. In fact, Trenbolone is structurally similar to Deca-Durabolin, differing in the fact that it has a c-9 and c-11 double bond. How is not a test?

You just answered YOUR OWN GODDAMN QUESTION!!!! this has to be a joke

[Njord]

Trenbolone is a 19-nor derived steroid, in the 19-nor Testosterone (Nandrolone) family. In fact, Trenbolone is structurally similar to Deca-Durabolin, differing in the fact that it has a c-9 and c-11 double bond. How is not a test?

I give up!

[the_patient]

I will be halfing my dose and going eod after everyones advice. As for it being a joke, no and if it seems that way it is due to my ignorance. I am just trying to get as much info as possible.

[nowdenlid]

Trenbolone is a 19-nor derived steroid, in the 19-nor Testosterone (Nandrolone) family. In fact, Trenbolone is structurally similar to Deca-Durabolin, differing in the fact that it has a c-9 and c-11 double bond. How is not a test?

test p

test s

test c


sustonon

they are your basic tests and esters

o yes and the pill for form of test
androil

hall of shame for you my man ........deca is a test lmfao......test e

[soulstealer]

Just added to to the hall of shame... Congrats The_patient

[nowdenlid]

what really gets me is people come here asking for advise,when we tell them right from wrong they still incist they are right so what is the point of asking for are advise in the first place....

[the_patient]

Ok, so I need to stack it with test. Would test propionate be good? I can make it an injectable the same way I did my fina right?

[soulstealer]

what really gets me is people come here asking for advise,when we tell them right from wrong they still incist they are right so what is the point of asking for are advise in the first place....

Well ya I mean I dont mind helping someone as long as they want it.... I dont care how misinformed they are...

[soulstealer]

Ok, so I need to stack it with test. Would test propionate be good? I can make it an injectable the same way I did my fina right?

As I said if you INSIST on doing a cycle then run it like this

50mg Test Prop Every Day Weeks 1-10
50mg Tren Ace Every Day Weeks 1-8
20mg Aromasin Every Day Weeks 1-12
20mg Nolvadex Every Day Weeks 10-14

But let me guess you didnt even setup a pct did you? or know what aromatize inhibitors are? or S.E.R.M.'s...

[the_patient]

i want help. like i said i am going off of what i can find to read and the local "gym guru". My main goal is fat loss, not muscle mass gains. my gains so far naturally have been great and that's not what im looking for. so yes, any help would be great. the guy i have been talking to says that tren ace will do this as is what i have read. it doesn't readily convert to estro so i thought that was a plus. etc, just help me if you can. thanks.

[nowdenlid]

Ok, so I need to stack it with test. Would test propionate be good? I can make it an injectable the same way I did my fina right?

i not going to give you any more advise as adding more compounds is the last thing i want you too do.

get the diet sorted you can get your goals natty i am 100% sure of that.....

am out good luck

[soulstealer]

i want help. like i said i am going off of what i can find to read and the local "gym guru". My main goal is fat loss, not muscle mass gains. my gains so far naturally have been great and that's not what im looking for. so yes, any help would be great. the guy i have been talking to says that tren ace will do this as is what i have read. it doesn't readily convert to estro so i thought that was a plus. etc, just help me if you can. thanks.

A side not the patient Steroids DONT I repeat DONT cause direct fat loss... they cause muscle retention... so if fat loss is your goal then your wasting your money, time and health...