stack advice please.

[beetee22]

I recently purchased a stack and was wondering if i was given good advice..
i am trying to cut up , i am about to stack
clenbuterol-tabs
winstrol-tabs
suprabol (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate)
and tamoxifen..
i am planning on doing a 7/wk cycle
daily i was told to take 5 clen tabs
2 win tabs
1 cc sunday, 2 cc wed of suprabol
and 2 tamoxifen tabs

i am relatively new to this stuff so any input is much appreciated. thanks a lot guys!
b.t.

[legobricks]

Horrible stack, horrible advice so please slap the person who gave you this info. First of all welcome to the board, what are your current stats (due to you wanting to cut up) and ill explain everything in detail why its a bad idea.

[beetee22]

6'1" and about 230 lbs.... have been really busy.. so i have let myself go a fair bit.. i am looking to get back into it ...and wanted a little boost.. get where i want to get which is about 210, (which has been done a few times before so it shouldnt take long) then i will try and get size after i am comfortable where i am at. thanks for replying.. i appreciate any advice before i go and take anything.. i want to do it right. i have acess to pretty much anything. thanks bro

[hugovsilva]

Plus you don't have a clue of which dosages you are going to run. You can't even say how many mg/ml is your gear and the dosage of your tabs. Without your stats like Legobricks mentions and the dosages of your gear no one will be able to give you any help.

[legobricks]

Ok im going to answer anyways,


First of all, WINNY DOES NOT CUT YOU UP!!! Your diet and cardio will depict whether or not you loos the b/f desired. What winny will do is harden up the muscle that is already there and being at a higher BF% you willl not notice it which will make it useless.

Second, clen is good to cut fat BUT if your BF% is too high and your diet is not in the right place then you run the risk of heart complications as well as gaining the lost fat back once your done using the clen. Have you read up on the side effects of clen?

Thirdly, your Nandrolone Phenylpropionate or NPP is a progestin and without the use of testosterone to accompany it can result in impotence, loss sense of well being, depression, acne, lethargy, increased irritability, etc... the list goes on. Its not something you should just "use" and not have any clue about.

Forth, tamoxifen (if your "guy" had any clue on what he was doing in which he doesnt so far so what would make him any smarter with this subject) increases PgR which allows more progesterone to bond to the receptors increasing your risk of gyno and other issues.

Fifth, Where is the PCT?

Sixth, It seems that nowadays most everyone associates short acting esters to "cutting cycles" and long acting esters to "bulking cycles" in which you can use either or for both. It all depends on your diet and training. So i ask once again, what does your current diet look like, your bf%, age, height, years weight training, knowledge of AAS?

[beetee22]

dosages are.. win 25 mg tabs, clen 20 mcg tabs, 20ml of suprabol, and tamoxifen 20mg.
those were the dosages i was told hugo, i am asking becasue i do not know , and am trying to get a bit of advice.. thanks

[hugovsilva]

The best thing you can do is to research those compounds.

The dosages for the orals are ok but you need to pyramid the clen up slowly and npp needs to be injected eod. Plus you need some test in there. I think you should read Legobricks post very carefully and when you can understand it and answer his questions you are ready to start your cycle.

[beetee22]

my diet is normal, its is balanced, not much fat intake, thats all i can tell you, my bf % is way too high, i am lean at about 205. so theres about 30 lbs i could shed.. fat. i am 27, six foot 1, trianing for 3 years, and knowledge is minimal which you already know haha.

[beetee22]

thanks guys just trying to digest all this.. so a SMARTER approach obviously is top research before starting anything .. know what i am getting into.. , Nandrolone Phenylpropionate needs to go with a test, and i need clomiphene citrate, for afterwards..