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    China and Tibet

    China raps Olympic torch protest

    Protesters briefly ran behind Beijing's envoy at the ceremony
    China has condemned a protest over Tibet at the Olympic torch lighting ceremony in Greece on Monday.
    In the first reaction from Beijing, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said any attempt to disrupt the torch relay for the Olympic Games was shameful.

    During the ceremony, campaigners broke through police lines and unfurled a Tibetan flag before being dragged away.

    Meanwhile there are reports of more violence in and around Tibet, and the police are continuing to make arrests.

    State media reported 13 arrests in Lhasa linked to protests that took place before the anti-Chinese rioting began.

    Any act to disrupt the Olympic torch relay is shameful and unpopular

    Officials also reported a clash on Monday in Sichuan province, which they said left a policeman dead.

    Tibet's government-in-exile said on Tuesday that it could confirm 140 people had died in the recent violence - an increase of 10 from Monday. China has reported 19 deaths.

    Independent confirmation of either figure is impossible to obtain. Foreign journalists remain barred from Tibet and neighbouring areas to which the protests have spread.

    China's Xinhua news agency has described Monday's torch-lighting ceremony at Olympia as "flawless".

    But at a regular press conference in Beijing, spokesman Qin Gang acknowledged the presence of the pro-Tibet activists.

    China says Tibet was always part of its territory
    Tibet enjoyed long periods of autonomy before 20th century
    1950: China launched a military assault
    Opposition to Chinese rule led to a bloody uprising in 1959
    Tibet's spiritual leader the Dalai Lama fled to India

    "Any act to disrupt the Olympic torch relay is shameful and unpopular," he said.

    Rights groups say they are planning further protests along the route, but the spokesman said each country hosting a leg of the torch relay had an obligation to ensure it passed off smoothly.

    The spokesman also said that about a dozen foreign journalists would be allowed into Tibet on Wednesday.

    The group, who do not include the BBC, would be allowed to interview "victims of criminal acts", he said.

    Earlier, Chinese authorities in Tibet said they had formalised the arrest of 13 people for taking part in monk-led demonstrations in Lhasa on 10 March.

    According to the Tibet Daily, the 13 were part of a crowd protesting near one of Lhasa's main monasteries, yelling "reactionary slogans" and holding a banner.

    The report did not say whether those held were Tibetan monks.

    Chinese media reported a fresh outbreak of violence in Sichuan province on Monday.

    Xinhua said one Chinese policeman was killed and several others were injured during clashes in Garze prefecture.

    Police "were forced to fire warning shots, and dispersed the lawless mobsters", the agency quoted a local official as saying.

    It did not say whether any civilians were hurt, but a rights group said that at least one Tibetan died in the clashes.

    In Dharamsala, the Tibetan government-in-exile said its updated death toll of 140 came from sources in Tibet and represented information as of Monday night.

    In a statement on its website, it also released names of 40 people it said were killed in the protests.

    It had "reliable information" on other casualties but would gather more comprehensive information before revealing their names, it said.

    Chinese and Tibetan sources have given very different accounts of the protests in the past few days.

    Chinese authorities have accused the Dalai Lama of orchestrating the unrest, partly in an attempt to sabotage the Beijing Olympics.

    They accuse foreign media of misrepresenting government efforts to restore order as a military crackdown.

    But the Tibetan government-in-exile says innocent civilians have been killed by Chinese troops.

    BBC NEWS.



    On top of this, France are threatening to boycott the Olympics and apparantly only now can people in China get access to websites like BBC NEWS after years of tight government control of the internet. This week the Chinese government had arranged a trip for foreign media organisations to Tibet - but the BBC's request to be included was rejected.

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    I have a feeling it will get worse. The athletes will be the victims in this. As for France boycotting, I don't think anyone will notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    I have a feeling it will get worse. The athletes will be the victims in this. As for France boycotting, I don't think anyone will notice.
    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    Actually Kfrost, the French have some medal contenders in weightlifting, track & field, and gymnastics. Kudos to France or any country who has the balls to make a statement (other than just words) against the oppresive Chinese government. The games should have never been ok'ed for China in the 1st place
    Actually to my knowledge France in boycotting the opening ceremonies. Not the Olympics per se.

    Also Chancellor Merkel I believe has announced the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada View Post
    Actually to my knowledge France in boycotting the opening ceremonies. Not the Olympics per se.

    Also Chancellor Merkel I believe has announced the same thing
    yep.

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    Actually Kfrost, the French have some medal contenders in weightlifting, track & field, and gymnastics. Kudos to France or any country who has the balls to make a statement (other than just words) against the oppresive Chinese government. The games should have never been ok'ed for China in the 1st place.

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    China is the polar opposite of everything the olympics stand for...so Im in agreement.


    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Actually Kfrost, the French have some medal contenders in weightlifting, track & field, and gymnastics. Kudos to France or any country who has the balls to make a statement (other than just words) against the oppresive Chinese government. The games should have never been ok'ed for China in the 1st place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    Actually Kfrost, the French have some medal contenders in weightlifting, track & field, and gymnastics. Kudos to France or any country who has the balls to make a statement (other than just words) against the oppresive Chinese government. The games should have never been ok'ed for China in the 1st place.
    yep, china are the new nazi-communists - but all the world is getting their ****ing electronics and clothes from there and the US borrowed 350 billion $ from them so I don t think there will be any other country than france having the balls to stand up. kudos to France

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    I agree China should never had gotten the games but they did and a boycott is against everything the games stand for. The Olympics Games have aimed to be an arena free of politics and when Jimmy Carter ordered a boycott of the games in Moscow in 1980 the ones that suffered were the athletes that spent their lives training for the opportunity only to be told by a politician that they are not allowed to compete against other athletes. Of course that 1980 boycott was followed with a 1984 boycott led by the Soviets and then before you know it politics have worked there way into the Olympics and dominated over athletes lives and many never ever got to compete to see whose best. Boycotts of the Olympics is wrong! keep politics out and the athletes in!

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    I understand your point Kfrost and from an athletes perspective I totally agree BUT athletes should take a stand as well show China that the world will not allow them to put up a fake front and acknowledge their human rights abuses. This is the perfect opportunity to hopefully embarrass China to the point of change.

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    I understand and agree that China has a horrible, deplorable human rights record and environmental record but it is not the competitors that should be punished for this. If France and others want to make a stand then cut off trade, enact embargoes but a boycott of the "free from politics" Olympics is ridicules. It makes no sense and is nothing more than a ruse for a politican to get his name in the headlines and hurt all invovled and take advantage of the Oylmpics the same way Jimmy Carter did in 1980. The Oympics have nothing what so ever to do with politics and should be free from their influence. The Greeks what put there wars aside for the games. We should follow their example.

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    hmm I see some bold statements here! "Nazis" "Communists" "oppressive" ...LOL u are kidding right? Apparently some guys here have issues with peoples repuplic.The Chinese CHOSE to have a regime like that don't you remember that? As for Tibet I do not see any problem, it is chinese territory no more no less

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