who does deca???

[LiftOLot]

I have about 5 cycle all Test E under my belt. I was offered to add in some deca this time and was thinking about doing it. Can anyone tell me if your can feel a diff? Does it change how you feel on the cycle and does it boost the over all results. I will most likely take 300 - 500 mg of Test E as the base and add in 200mg of deca. thanks

[nowdenlid]

deca will give you alot more mass for sure.......

weeks -1-14 750mgs test e

weeks -1-12 600mgs deca

that would be a great cycle for you imo

[shifty_git]

deca is great on a bulk cycle!

the short estered npp version is ma fav compound.

go for at least 400mg rather than 200mg, 200mg will be good for lubing ya joints but thats about it. (well obviously will give some gains, but 400mg seems to be the sweet spot.)

make sure you have a good strong pct to follow.

[LiftOLot]

I am very sensitive to Test I know that the normal dose for a guy can be 500 - 750 or more sometimes but 200mg per week was my first dose and I thought I was going to explode. My last was 500mg per week and I had to dial it down in the end because it was to strong of a dose for me. I will most likely use 300mg of Test and a few weeks at 500mg just to bump it up a little, Does this change your advice about the deca? and the dose?

[nowdenlid]

you an run deca at 600 mgs every week with a hrt of test 250-300mgs ew and you will have great rusults...

but you gotta make sure you have a very very good pct with a cycle like this

weeks 1-12 600 mgs deca ew

weeks 1-12 250-300mgs test e ew

would also get some hcg imo

[LiftOLot]

you an run deca at 600 mgs every week with a hrt of test 250-300mgs ew and you will have great rusults...

but you gotta make sure you have a very very good pct with a cycle like this

weeks 1-12 600 mgs deca ew

weeks 1-12 250-300mgs test e ew

would also get some hcg imo

My normal PCT for Test it to wait 2 weeks after the cycle (last shot) Deca I think is 3 weeks - then Clomid 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

Should I alter this?

[shifty_git]

My normal PCT for Test it to wait 2 weeks after the cycle (last shot) Deca I think is 3 weeks - then Clomid 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

Should I alter this?

check out pheednos or anthony roberts pct in the pct section....

either will be fine as you can easily add hcg to pheednos if you have testicular shrinkage on cycle.

[fdrx7man]

deca is awesome for bulking.. prob is your guy might now be 100%.. gotta keep up the test to counter it..

[Johnny_Rotten]

I've heard lot's of conflicting things about Deca. Heard some great things but then heard alot of people say they got so much bloat/water retention from it..

Would there be anything to run to counter this if you did do a Deca cycle?

[kfrost06]

You get some bloat but it's not that bad, I like a little bloat, helps with gains and joints and gives you more strength. If it gets too bad you can always take an AI.

[PT]

i love deca and test together. you'll gain more mass off that then any other 2 steroids. as for water, that comes with it but i personally take drugs to keep that to a min.

[Manorexic]

love it....

[sitries]

what drugs can be taken to keep the water retention down on test deca???? would arimadex be sufficient??? im not interested in taking proviron coz of the hairloss effects!!!!

[fdrx7man]

armidex works good yes.

[jackdup04]

test and deca the original cornerstones of anabolics...Cant go wrong IMO...

[oker]

you an run deca at 600 mgs every week with a hrt of test 250-300mgs ew and you will have great rusults...

but you gotta make sure you have a very very good pct with a cycle like this

weeks 1-12 600 mgs deca ew

weeks 1-12 250-300mgs test e ew

would also get some hcg imo

I'm running a similar cycle - 600 test e and 400 deca split twice a week. My PCT is nolva and clomid - would you consider this a good pct? 20 mg ed of nolva and 300 clomid ed tapered down to 50 ed.

[nowdenlid]

I'm running a similar cycle - 600 test e and 400 deca split twice a week. My PCT is nolva and clomid - would you consider this a good pct? 20 mg ed of nolva and 300 clomid ed tapered down to 50 ed.

clomid looks a little high to me @ 300mgs ed

nolva 30/30/20/20

clomid day 1-200 then 100/100/50/50

[oker]

clomid looks a little high to me @ 300mgs ed

nolva 30/30/20/20

clomid day 1-200 then 100/100/50/50

Yeah cheers bro, I read somewhere clomid 300 day one then 200/100/50/50 but also thought 300 was a bit excessive for the first day. I forgot to mention I'm gonna take winny 50 mg ed day for the last 4 weeks of cycle, do you think HCG will be necessary for this kind of cycle?

[nowdenlid]

i find when useing hcg (around weeks 8-10 of a 12 week cycle) i recover alot easyer but thats just me and i tend to only use it when running deca ,its up to you bro and for your cycle i would say its not a must ....i am running this without hcg

sust 250mgs e3rd day 12 weeks

winny 50mgs weeks 9-14

clomid 100/100/50/50

nolva 30/30/20/20

[oker]

i find when useing hcg (around weeks 8-10 of a 12 week cycle) i recover alot easyer but thats just me and i tend to only use it when running deca ,its up to you bro and for your cycle i would say its not a must ....i am running this without hcg

sust 250mgs e3rd day 12 weeks

winny 50mgs weeks 9-14

clomid 100/100/50/50

nolva 30/30/20/20

Yeah cheers again bro, the thing is I'm running this cycle a little longer than the last - 16 weeks, which is why I was thinking about HCG. But if my balls haven't shrunken down to peanut size then it's probably not needed right? I mean, basicially my thinking is, that, it would depend on the individual and sides. Is that a fair assumption?

weeks 1-16 600 test e
weeks 1- 14 400 deca (stop deca two weeks before test)
weeks 12-16 winny 50 ed

I did well on the last cycle of test e alone, 500 a week for 14 weeks and no sides...balls came back and libido tip top. I figure I should be able to handle 16 weeks but then again never combined 2 compunds b4

[nowdenlid]

yer bro just keep it on hand and if you notice any shrinkage you can use ,imo hcg gives easy recovery on pct and i tend to no feel as bad (on pct)when i use ,imo hcg is just not to help ball sze back to norm ,as i said it aids me in the recovery process alot..

[oker]

yer bro just keep it on hand and if you notice any shrinkage you can use ,imo hcg gives easy recovery on pct and i tend to no feel as bad (on pct)when i use ,imo hcg is just not to help ball sze back to norm ,as i said it aids me in the recovery process alot..

Brilliant thanks again bro I think I'm gonna get some and keep it on hand as you suggested.

[ChuckLee]

5 cycles of test only...have you gained anything in the last 1 or 2?

[RAWDEAL:]

I'm running a similar cycle - 600 test e and 400 deca split twice a week. My PCT is nolva and clomid - would you consider this a good pct? 20 mg ed of nolva and 300 clomid ed tapered down to 50 ed.

My Bod works fine on 50mg Ed clomid/And 20mg ED nova...thats all i do...and i am running 750 test/ 550 deca/30 dball! Easy good gain cycle IMO !

[LiftOLot]

5 cycles of test only...have you gained anything in the last 1 or 2?

Hell yes man. I am sooooooo sensitive to AAS that I could just go on 150mg per week of test for 10 weeks and get a good result.

[green22]

deca is all good for mass.

[BuffBuffalo]

This thread makes me want to stack deca on my next cycle just that much more. It seems everyone has had great results.