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    read stickies still need a little help

    All right guys Ive read the stickies and a lot of the other threads and need a little help to put it into use. I use to work out for years on and off but gave up because of the frustration of not makeing any gains. Now after getting some info from this site I feel it was because of a bad diet. With that said I made a bulking diet plan and need your opinions. Im 25 started at 160lbs. and in two weeks went up to about 165 and upped the calories some more. The problem is the weight Ive gained seems to be fat and i havent seen any noticeable changes in strength. The slingshot 3 day a week training program is what Ive been following w/o cardio though beacause my focus was just on size and strength but may have to add some. Thanks in advance need to know what changes have to be made.
    BREAKFAST 619 20 70 43
    FOOD AMOUNT CALORIES FAT CARBS PROTEIN
    banana 1 medium size 109 1 28 1
    non fat milk 1 cup 86 0 12 8
    oats 1/2 cup 156 3 27 6
    EAS protein mix 2 scoops 150 3 3 27
    olive oil 1tbsp. 119 14 0 0

    MORNING SNACK 499 15 48 45
    pinto beans boiled 1 cup 234 1 44 14
    chicken breast 6.50 oz. 146 1 4 31
    olive oil 1 tbsp. 119 14 0 0

    LUNCH 642 50 15 31
    ***** 3 whole egg 3 252 18 2 18
    egg white 2 33 0 1 7
    corn oil 2 tbsp. 240 27 0 0
    corn tortilla 1 56 1 12 1
    turkey bacon 2 61 4 0 5

    AFTERNOON SNACK 422 17 20 48
    chicken breast 6.50 oz 146 1 4 31
    cottage cheese 1/2 cup 102 2 4 16
    corn tortilla 1 56 1 12 1
    olive oil 1 tbsp. 119 14 0 0

    PWO 630 1 102 53
    maltodextrin 42.50 grams 162 0 39 0
    dextrose 42.50 grams 160 0 41 0
    wheybolic protein two scoops 180 1 4 40
    non fat milk 1 1/2 cups 129 1 18 13

    NIGHTTIME SNACK 452 23 21 40
    EAS protein two scoops 150 3 3 27
    twinlab fish oil 1 tbsp. 70 6 5 0
    low fat milk 1 1/2 cups 129 1 18 13
    olive oil 1 tbsp. 119 14 0 0

    TOTAL 3,281 126grams 280grams 260grams[/CENTER][/LEFT]
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    sorry I dont know why it came out like that cant figure out how to line it up neatly its the best I could do

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    How tall are you and how much is your bf% approx?
    As my first thought, way too many fats comparing to other macros.
    Up a bit your daily carbs and prots intake along with lowering the fats.
    Something like 300gr prots, 300gr carbs (equals to prots to maintain your gains on a lean bulking) and 90gr fats.
    Then you're diet should be good, since it is already quite well planned.

    CL

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    well Im 5'7 and as for BF% a guess would be about 20%. Im a thin guy nothing jiggles around when I move its just that whatever fat I do gain goes to my stomach (your basic skinny fat guy). The reason I tried to add in so many fats to my diet was beacause I read on the slingshot system that you were suppose to take in 1 gram of fat for every 2 grams of carbs and thats where I get confused. There is so much information out there that I get overwhelmed and cant decide which to follow, but Ill make the revisions to my diet so its more of a lean bulker. I dont wanna add extra fat to myself if I can avoid it. Appreciate the quick respose bro.

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    If you really are 20%bf so you are NOT thin at all.
    And in this case, mate, I wouldn't suggest a bulk diet. Taking this way will probably make you gain further more fat, I understand that you fell small but I firmly dissuade to do a bulking diet, I'd say that a strict cutting diet will make you lean and in the meanwhile it will make you look even more muscolar.
    Another option should be a lean mass built, but in both cases you'll have to cut your carbs and fats. However

    CL

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    Hmmm.... you might be right. Ill have to really get a measuremnet of my bf% to be accurate. Im thin all around, but do have a bit of a gut so maybe rethink some things. Its just that Im more eager to gain size and strength because like you said I feel small

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    Hey, i'm no expert but i agree with chuck about your fats being a little high and you shouldn't be going for an all out bulk diet, but personally I wouldn't up your proteins and carbs, keep them the same and just reduce your fats a bit thus reducing your overall calorie intake. IMO you're adding a little too much weight too soon. I'd aim for closer to 3lbs every two weeks not 5lbs. (at least for now so you don't add any more unwanted fat, also i'm assuming your natural coz if your on aas obviously ur body can build muscle at a much faster rate) The body can only build so much muscle per week and it sounds like your trying a little too hard and the excess is being stored as fat. Try to be patient, I know it's tempting to try and gain as much weight as you can quickly (i've been there) but you want the weight to be muscle right? Take it a little slower, keep an eye on the scales as a guide but use your eye when you look in the mirror to make sure it's the right kind of weight and adjust your diet accordingly making minor changes here and there till you nail it.

    Good luck!
    Last edited by Hudson; 04-03-2008 at 05:44 AM.

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