starting hgh with trt

[1pete]

I've been doing trt since nov 300 mgs test e and 200 mgs of deca. I'm just starting tev-tropin Dr. scripted. The only hgh my insurance covers. Anyone have any experience with it? Dr wants me to start at 1 iu @ 5-2. Still doing the test e and deca. 50% less per week. I expect to be on this for quite some time. Dr told me most likely take a 2-3 week break from everything after 6 months. Been reading the posts and t-4 seems to a suitable enhancer for the hgh. Haven't brought it up with the doc yet. Is t-4 also a scripted med? At the doseages I'm at with the hgh and aas will this be a waste of my time? If I enhance with t-4 will this increase my gains? I'm not trying to get huge just a little bigger and ripped. I'm 6'2 215 with bf around 14%. From the posts it appears 2 iu 5-2 is for fat loss and 4-5 iu 5-2 is good for mass. I did run test e @ 600 mgs and deca @ 400 mgs weekly for 10 weeks then I tapered down to 150 test e and 100 mgs of deca. I stopped the deca 3 weeks ago and the test e 10 days ago. My new stuff will be here on thursday. Should I just start the test and deca and hgh and not worry about pct? Is there anything else I can throw in there besides t-4 to enhance the 1iu? Thanks

[Gear]

I have never used that HGH but if it's pharmaceyitcal grade HGH then I am sure it's good stuff. I would say a minimum effective dose would be about 2IU, but even at that dose you will see some very minor benefits.

I doubt your doc will prescribe you T4 as that type of medicine is for thyroid related issues but if you can somehow get some then do so.

Unless you are 45 years of age or over, the HGH and AAS doses you are using is good for well being benefits and some minor fat loss, but you will need a lot more than that if you are after muscle gains.

I would start PCT and get that over and done with before using all your new stuff. I also suggest you have a break before starting another cycle, this way you can give your body a rest and start fresh.

All the best.

-Gear

[1pete]

[QUOTE=Gear;3913832]I have never used that HGH but if it's pharmaceyitcal grade HGH then I am sure it's good stuff. I would say a minimum effective dose would be about 2IU, but even at that dose you will see some very minor benefits.

I doubt your doc will prescribe you T4 as that type of medicine is for thyroid related issues but if you can somehow get some then do so.

Unless you are 45 years of age or over, the HGH and AAS doses you are using is good for well being benefits and some minor fat loss, but you will need a lot more than that if you are after muscle gains.

I would start PCT and get that over and done with before using all your new stuff. I also suggest you have a break before starting another cycle, this way you can give your body a rest and start fresh.

Thanks for the response Gear.
When I started trt my levels were below 50% normal. I had blood work two weeks ago and my levels were at top end of normal (1100 ng/dl) and that was after I began to cruise on the test e until I stopped it completey. I stopped completely because I'm having a cosmetic procedure done and that doc told me to stop everything 2 weeks prior to the procedure. If I start pct my levels were low to begin with so I don't know how much I will recover. I doubt I'll get back to 1100 on my own with pct. I see my best case as maybe getting back to 50%. Then I'll be right back to where I was before I started the trt. If that is your best recommendation then I'll go for it. Also my insulin was high at 17 uiu/ml and my t-3 uptake was at 36% one point above the high end. Will the gh effect these levels? My cholesterol also jumped up 20 mg to 220.

[Gear]

HGH can effect your blood glucose so you might want to monitor your BG levels regularly. And keep in mind that HGH also lowers your T4 which later gets converted to T3.

-Gear