Clen makes it hard to think...?

[gettingBIGGERfast]

This post is overdue somewhat. I have been laying in bed for 5 hours unable to sleep (tren) and was thinking about stuff I have been meaning to ask on the forums.

Before this cycle I ran 3 weeks of dnp, and then I dieted for two more weeks to prime for this cycle. I was planning on running clen for those two weeks but I dropped the clen because I felt it was making me stupid.

This wasn't my first time on clen, but it was the first time I noticed anything like that. I was only on it for a week, but the whole time I just felt like my brain was...slower. Even my common sense seemed to be weakened. I'm a grad student so this was a problem. The week I stated the clen was actually timed really bad because I had lots of work that week. In fact, I had two tests so I kept the dosage at 60 mcg the whole week just to make sure my hands wouldn't be shaking while I was trying to write.

I know it was the clen making me feel that way too, because a day after I dropped the clen, I felt 200% better. Anyone else ever experience anything like this? I seem to remember reading somewhere that ephedrine could have a negative impact on cognitive abilities. Is it possible clen has a similar effect?

[RikuY]

I kinda felt the same thing. I work in a mental capacity, and the clen definitely slowed me down, and made it harder for me to concentrate on one task for a long time. Writing with the shakes was not the best either...

So, I guess you are not alone... lol.

[magic32]

No fish tale here!

This is a far more rational conclusion than some might think, after all the brain is the organ of the mind, thus molecular influences on the brain would be manifested mentally. If you brain gets the right signals from ingested chemicals, then you remain on a stable, adaptive course. If the wrong signals are received, then you’ll become unstable and maladaptive as exemplified in depression and many forms of psychosis both of which are OFTEN remedied via hormonal manipulation.

Most theories of brain and mental disorders ignore food and environmental chemicals that effect brain function. But your experience makes perfect since, because Psyche (mind) and Soma (body) are an integrative system. It is therefore reasonable to assume that bad environments and problems in the food or water supply can disrupt brain function. Logically, some chemicals can be an even more powerful hindrance than foods. For example when a fish in an aquarium displays psychotic behavior, you don't call a fish psychiatrist; you check the oxygen concentration, temperature, and pH levels of the water. It is cleaning the tank and changing the diet that restores mental regularity.

[gettingBIGGERfast]

No fish tale here!

This is a far more rational conclusion than some might think, after all the brain is the organ of the mind, thus molecular influences on the brain would be manifested mentally. If you brain gets the right signals from ingested chemicals, then you remain on a stable, adaptive course. If the wrong signals are received, then you’ll become unstable and maladaptive as exemplified in depression and many forms of psychosis both of which are OFTEN remedied via hormonal manipulation.

Most theories of brain and mental disorders ignore food and environmental chemicals that effect brain function. But your experience makes perfect since, because Psyche (mind) and Soma (body) are an integrative system. It is therefore reasonable to assume that bad environments and problems in the food or water supply can disrupt brain function. Logically, some chemicals can be an even more powerful hindrance than foods. For example when a fish in an aquarium displays psychotic behavior, you don't call a fish psychiatrist; you check the oxygen concentration, temperature, and pH levels of the water. It is cleaning the tank and changing the diet that restores mental regularity.

Makes perfect logical sense. Thanks for the excellent reply Magic.

I am curious to know whether this effect is something which 'always' occurs when taking clen and I just experienced a particularly intense case of it or whether it was more of a combined effect of the clen, a calorie deficient state and low blood sugar.

For instance, is there a certain mechanism of clen which is always present which may/always manifests itself in various degrees of decreased cognitive abilities. I guess I should stop being lazy and google around for an answer. In the mean time...

BUMP for our local clen gurus. Maybe Beast will throw in his two cents.

[legobricks]

I kind of experience the same thing on clen hence the reason why I wont ever use it again. It gives me that feeling like i am constantly thinking of stupid crap and it makes it hard to focus, not to mention it makes me feel real insecure and jittery..... I know im weird. I just avoid clen but hey thats me.