prop as finisher

[john vega]

5 foot 9 inches tall, 196 pounds, 10 percent bf..several cycles under my belt ..deca, eq, cyp, enan, sus dbol
current cycle

weeks1-10 nandrolone. 400 mgs weekly
weeks 1-12 enanthate 400 mgs weekly

quik question though..can i extend my cycle after week twelve by just incorporating prop at 100 mgs eod mon, wed, friday, for bout 8 weeks, and just drop the nandrolone after week 10 and drop the enanthate at week 12. i ask this because i wasnt sure if there would be too many sides with the enanthate ester exiting my body within 2 weeks after last shot...

also, proper pct lined up...

[SNUKA]

yes you can continue with prop after week 12, but inject the prop ED or eod at least. your doing a 20 week cycle???

[millionairemurph]

i would maybe extend it 2-3 weeks with the prop. Gives you plenty of time to get the longer esters out of your body. Dont know why you'd run a super long cycle though. Id rather run 2 shorter cycles (with propr time off and pct in between) than a super long cycle that will be hard to recover from and keep the gains from. jmo

[NATE0406]

yes you are fine with you want to do. i know many ppl who like 16-20 weeks cycles. i wouldnt do it personally. i will agree with these guys and say that i wouldnt extend it longer than 16 weeks.

[john vega]

thankx for all advice fellas. million dolla man, million doll advice.lol seriously, ill just extend ti for like 4 weeks MAX...quik question though...shud i begin my pct 24 hours after last proip shot..considering the enanthate ester left my body 2 weeks into my final 4 weeks with prop...

[Kratos]

20 weeks is too long imo...drop the enth at week 10...double the 1st week dose of deca (I'm assuming deconate ester)...run prop weeks 10-14...no stats or goals or cycle experience so can't comment on dosage.

[john vega]

KRATOS..long time bud. how r ya? u used to help me out much. good advice too and wanted to say thankx bro. bout wat u just said...my goals are to be gain lean mass tissue apart from dht derivatives like winny, mast, tren, so i went with prop, enanthate, ands deca. i broke it up like this..

weeks 1-12 enanthate 500 mgs weekly
weeks 1-10 deca at 400 mgs weekly

like an idiot, i went to take last few shots of enanthate and had misplaces bottle. BIG STUPID MISTSAKE! ill spare u the criticicsm. lol but anyways, i cudnt get my hands on enanthate..so instead of waiting 14 days later and beginning..i just figured to start prop asap. i was wondering if i cud of started it like a short cycle after week 10 like 10-16. but ur saying 10-14 instead??
btw. what did u mean by doubling up on deca. can u provide me a sample layout of the cycle in the way you r trying to explain it to me. deca, enanthate, prop.

thanks again bro.

[Kratos]

With a fairly low dose of deca ie 400 mg and 10 weeks being a fairly short run time for such a long ester, I was thinking it wouldn't hurt to do.

week 1 800mg deca
week 2-10 400 mg deca

But you already did that part of the cycle so no point thinking about it.


I don't like super long cycles, what I do is 10 weeks with short esters, blood levels are up quick and fall off quick. Get the most out of 10 weeks then pct and time off. Just the way I like to do it, everybody has their own opinion.

16 weeks is totally fine, going weeks 10-16 with the prop is fine if you are still seeing gains at the end of 14 weeks go for it. If your gains taper off then quit, pct and recover.

[john vega]

sound advice kratos. as always. thanks bro. stay big and knowledgable. thanks 4 all ur help..

[john vega]

i just had 1 more quik ques kratos. since its a longer cycle than ur standard 10-12 weeks cycles...shud i incorporate hcg now to make pct easier, or shud i wait and do hcg right after last prop shot in week 16..got clomid and arimidex and vitamin e on hand too.