Good mix with Turnabolin

[Deen54]

I have been working out steady for 3 years now. I am stuck at the
plateau and been here years for months...ok.. the truth.. years!

I am trying to get some t-bol. I am also debating mixing it with
something.

What would be a good mix?

I am 5 6
145 lbs.

Good shape except for some belly fat which for some reason won't go away.

Something relatively a good quality gain.

Nothing with sides such as conversion to Dht.. estogen...or hair loss.

Going for quality something I can keep.

I have my mind made up with the Turnabol. I was thinking Anavar..but

not sure anymore as it seems kinda similar anyway...just a bit weaker.

[tboney]

How old are you?

[tboney]

You could run it with some anavar and test.

[Deen54]

old 37

[Deen54]

i was thinking test also..but what kind?

[Deen54]

i want to get to 160 muscled.. long or short esters that's the debate.

[Deen54]

Ok..all experts.. Hello...

what's your opinion on a second choice gear to go with Tbol?

the goal to gain more weight, quality and get rid of fat off the abs.

I know this is tough.

[ChuckLee]

Let me know, you're debating on which type of test to use but you want to stay away fromt DHT and estrogen conversion issues?

So you are about to choose one of these two options:
1. Run a oral only Tbol+Anavar stack, pretty mild at moderate dosages, strength and lean mass stack;
2. Run a Tbol+Test E (long estered form assumed) cycle, easier on your liver than the first option; but could bring into DHT/Estro related sides, so you'd have eventually to add an AI (Aromasin, Proviron) for estrogen control and Fina/Dutasteride for DHT conversion blocking.

The choice is yours.

P.S.: for your fat belly, what about diet+cardio?

CL

[Deen54]

The fat belly option scares me.

Could I run the test E and t- bol and at the end just use nolvadex?

[ChuckLee]

The fat belly option scares me.

Could I run the test E and t- bol and at the end just use nolvadex?

Keep it for your PCT and throw it in if gyno appears. You're not so scared of DHT/Estro conversion since you're saying this...
AGAIN, an AI and duta/fina will help you on that, no nolva allowed.

CL

[Deen54]

No, i'm jokin..i am scared of estrogen conversion..

Do you think Test E is a good choice? Is there a better choice of Test?

So nolvadex will prevent gyno but not stop the estrogen.

Proviron will stop the estrogen..so if i get proviron..i won't need nolva?

These pct's cost as much as the juice.

[lovbyts]

It gets confusing, doesn't it? The more I read the more I'm confused sometimes, LOL

[jeffefrijoles]

No, i'm jokin..i am scared of estrogen conversion..

Do you think Test E is a good choice? Is there a better choice of Test?

So nolvadex will prevent gyno but not stop the estrogen.

Proviron will stop the estrogen..so if i get proviron..i won't need nolva?

These pct's cost as much as the juice.

Yes - a good regimen of PCT supplies will probably cost as much as your gear. This, however, is a small price to pay to prevent unwanted sides and to keep your hard earned gains after a cycle. Do not skimp and do not, I repeat DO NOT start your cycle without having a good plan and all compounds on hand. Spend some time in the PCT forums and get your learn on!! Take care!

[Deen54]

Good advice..Don't skimp on your health.

You hear that kids!