Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Please critic my small summer cutting cycle.

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709

    Please critic my small summer cutting cycle.

    Well folks, im going to start a cost effective quick 6 week cycle (clen will go to week 8), with hopes of shredding as much bodyfat as possible while adding some quality mass just before the summer season kicks in. I want to hear feedback and opinions.

    ORAL TURANABOL: WEEKS 1-4 - 40mg/day

    TREN HEX(PARABOLAN) WEEKS 1-6 (300mg shot every 3rd day)

    T4: 25mcg day 1-2, 50mcg day 1-6 and so on, I will go like this until I reach a max dose of 200mcg's and then taper down (I know I should have ordered T3, but got the T4 on hand)

    CLENBUTEROL: Weeks 1-8 - will taper up to no more than 6 tabs, then lay off for 4 weeks and begin again.

    PROVIRON: Weeks 1-6 - 1 tab eod I'm using proviron so I don't have to take test in this cycle and get the extra hardness an oral androgen can give.

    ***** cycle I know, but I think it should get me where I want.
    My stats are 5ft 11" 195lbs with approx 12-15%bf.

    I'm thinking about switching to tren ace for the last 2 weeks, but I reckon it would be an unnecessary waste of money if I do the right pct timing.
    PCT will consist of the classic Nolva and Clomid combo for 4 weeks, and if I see my balls shrank too much, a few shots of HCG also. I would prefer to go HCG free this time however, coz by the time I take it from the pharmacy in 40 degrees centigrade weather it will probably go bad before I put it in the fridge.

    My diet will be the usual 6 meals a day + 3-4 protein shakes (Including PWO shake). I will be consuming roughly 4000-5000 cals/day (more if I can) plus cycling my carbs. So day 1 will be a 50carb/30protein/20 fat ratio day 2 obviously cutting more of the carbs out and adding more protein, and day 3 I will try to go carb free but ingest insane amounts of protein. Most of the fats will come from EFA's/poly/mono. I always try to avoid saturated fats.
    Since im going to be using tren and thyroid 4, Im not going to cut my cals hoping most will go to the repairing process.

    Cardio will be 3 times a week for 30 mins every morning on an empty stomache.

    These are the supps i'll be using:
    Vitamin C 2000mg/day
    Multi-Vitamin every day
    Flax Seed Oil 5000mg/day
    Cranberry Extract 2000mg/day & gallon a day Water
    Alpha-lipoic acid 500mg/day
    Milk Thistle 1500mg/day for the liver
    Ginger Root 1000mg before main meals
    Saw Palmetto every day for the prostate
    a gallon a day Water
    Protein minimum 3 grams per pound/day
    Gainer Protein (POST WORKOUT) (ON pro complex) with lucozade
    L-Glutamine 10000mg/day
    No creatine (it does nothing for me)
    Last edited by Toenail Juice Z; 05-01-2008 at 03:18 AM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Read my blog
    Posts
    3,724
    do you not have a injectable test base?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    texas
    Posts
    10,940
    are you going to run clen for 8 weeks straight, what are you going to use for up regulation

    your cutting while eating 5000cal/day? why

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    do you not have a injectable test base?
    No I want to try a cycle without test for once. Im using proviron as a substitute for dick problems. I have some cialis on hand just in case.
    Last edited by Toenail Juice Z; 05-01-2008 at 04:03 AM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    Quote Originally Posted by phate186 View Post
    are you going to run clen for 8 weeks straight, what are you going to use for up regulation

    your cutting while eating 5000cal/day? why
    I think I get away with eating that much due to the thyroid hormone utilizing all the calories.

    I will not run clen for 8 weeks straight. I will run it 4weeks on, 4weeks off, then start again.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    12,158
    tren cyclohex is a rough drug and should be run with test. i know people that hasnt and didnt have many problems and i also know people that has had problems. personally i would rather be safe and up the parabolon to 8 weeks and run some prop with it.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    tren cyclohex is a rough drug and should be run with test. i know people that hasnt and didnt have many problems and i also know people that has had problems. personally i would rather be safe and up the parabolon to 8 weeks and run some prop with it.
    how about 200mg of test E every week. I don't wanna inject prop every day.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    UK - A Backward Part
    Posts
    8,286
    An TRT dose like 200mg would be great.

    Low worry of aromatization (which is good as estro acts as a magnifier to prog/prolactin sides from the tren) yet also maintains physiological function.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    An TRT dose like 200mg would be great.

    Low worry of aromatization (which is good as estro acts as a magnifier to prog/prolactin sides from the tren) yet also maintains physiological function.
    by TRT do you mean testosterone replacement therapy?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    UK - A Backward Part
    Posts
    8,286
    Quote Originally Posted by Toenail Juice Z View Post
    by TRT do you mean testosterone replacement therapy?
    Yep.

    Even though 200mg is at a average/higher end of what most docs will prescribe as an TRT dose, its within that range of what works for most guys.

    And with the lower dose less chance of aromatization, and like i said in ma earlier post estro acts as a magnifier to pro/prolactin sides, so you wont have to worry about that but get to keep physiological aspects.

    Obviously 19nor (tren) will raise prolactin, and prolactin KILLS sex drive. So you will need to balance that with some test (otherwise when shut down the prolactin raise that you cant help will become more dominant in its effects), So the TRT range is recommended for above reasons.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    Thanks. I will go with test cypionate 200mg/week

    Don't wanna start taking anti prolactin pills such as dostinex.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    UK - A Backward Part
    Posts
    8,286
    You tried them b4?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    No but my bro had to use them after an operation.
    There hard to find on the black market however, so i'll stick with test. I may be able to get them over the counter at a pharmacy, but I think i'll stay away from something I have never used before.
    Last edited by Toenail Juice Z; 05-01-2008 at 10:59 AM.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    8,169
    Such a long ester like Hex you dont wanna run it for 8 weeks at least?

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    709
    It's a medium-long ester though
    You reckon 8 weeks would be better?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •