what gives the most gains test prop or test enanthate

[gangers]

hi i take test enanthate and ime wondering what gives the most gains test propionate or test enanthate??????

i know propionate has to be injected everyday.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

depends on goals bro

[ChuckLee]

Depends on diet, but firstly depends if you know what you're gonna do...

CL

[hdd123]

hi i take test enanthate and ime wondering what gives the most gains test propionate or test enanthate??????

i know propionate has to be injected everyday.

actually every second or third day, because it was said to me that, yes some lifters do that (every day), but there's no reason to do that, because it "covers" and doesn't affect a lot strength or muscle gains ("money in wind"). And your hpta would be more harder beaten up.
I think enanh. would give more (although I've never used it as prop.), because test levels after the effect decreases quite dramatically.
Here's my advice: check out stroid profile forum on this site, compare prop., enanh. and cyp. effects and defects and choose of them, what u like the best.

[ChuckLee]

actually every second or third day, because it was said to me that, yes some lifters do that (every day), but there's no reason to do that, because it "covers" and doesn't affect a lot strength or muscle gains ("money in wind"). And your hpta would be more harder beaten up.
I think enanh. would give more (although I've never used it as prop.), because test levels after the effect decreases quite dramatically.
Here's my advice: check out stroid profile forum on this site, compare prop., enanh. and cyp. effects and defects and choose of them, what u like the best.

False.
It maintains blood levels even more stable than injecting it EOD or every 3rd day(pretty stupid).
This brings way less sides.

CL

[jAcKeD!!!!]

actually every second or third day, because it was said to me that, yes some lifters do that (every day), but there's no reason to do that, because it "covers" and doesn't affect a lot strength or muscle gains ("money in wind"). And your hpta would be more harder beaten up.
I think enanh. would give more (although I've never used it as prop.), because test levels after the effect decreases quite dramatically.
Here's my advice: check out stroid profile forum on this site, compare prop., enanh. and cyp. effects and defects and choose of them, what u like the best.

ohh boy, i think the both of you need to check the profiles out
more frequent injections(short or long esters) keep levels more stable which prevent less sides.

[iagainsti]

hi i take test enanthate and ime wondering what gives the most gains test propionate or test enanthate??????

i know propionate has to be injected everyday.

Test is test. Prop will kick in quicker and some say gives less bloat, but in the end the gains should all be the same.

[ilovesus]

Id go with test e unless your going to mix the prop with deca in the same syringe. Shooting prop that often gets old after a while because of the pain. Test e will be just as good.

[hdd123]

ohh boy, i think the both of you need to check the profiles out
more frequent injections(short or long esters) keep levels more stable which prevent less sides.

Ok, I'll check them again in the offing
I just meaned that it's more hpta kickin', than to split some day between the injections (especially if this member is absolutely new using roids).

[Phate]

if you want to get technical then prop should be able to give better results on account of it's ester weighing less so you get more test over the course of your cycle

test enth 69.9mg of test per 100mg
test prop 83.72mg of test per 100mg

so lets say you run two identical cycles of test

1-12 test e 500mg/week=4194mg of total test during cycle
1-12 test prop 500mg/week=5023.2mg of total test during cycle

but in the end it's your diet and what you're using it for that determines your gains

[Big]

actually every second or third day, because it was said to me that, yes some lifters do that (every day), but there's no reason to do that, because it "covers" and doesn't affect a lot strength or muscle gains ("money in wind"). And your hpta would be more harder beaten up.

Please do some more research and learn what you're talking about before offering advice like this. There are plenty of us here who know for sure how to answer these questions, we don't really need people guessing.

[J0k3R]

Test enth causes more nitrogen retention in the muscles while prop actually gives more testosterone per 100ml due to the ester so in the end i'd say the same gains just with prop its sooner.

[bbminded]

what if you are doing test prop and masteron????

[TASSY5]

What about Test C opposed to E or P Will the gains be better??

[Phate]

test c and e are almost identical

[hdd123]

Please do some more research and learn what you're talking about before offering advice like this. There are plenty of us here who know for sure how to answer these questions, we don't really need people guessing.

As I said, I'll do it in the offening. Furthermore, I wasn't saying bullshit at all about prop., because, the advice like that I offered, I firstly got known by the person, from whom the stuff camed. And also many au faits, from gyms and other steroid "boards" instructed, that prop must be injected ESD also known as EOD.

[jackdup04]

This is one of those questions where ur gonna get diff answers..Traditionally a longer ester(enan)is gonna give more mass but newer studys combat that theory and says prop can give same gains in some cases more with less water retention with frequent injections I still almost always use a long ester in a bulking phase but thats my personal preferance...Do some more research and find what sounds best for u..Either way if takin' correctly ur good2go..Good luck bro...

[Big]

As I said, I'll do it in the offening. Furthermore, I wasn't saying bullshit at all about prop., because, the advice like that I offered, I firstly got known by the person, from whom the stuff camed. And also many au faits, from gyms and other steroid "boards" instructed, that prop must be injected ESD also known as EOD.

I don't even know what you're saying, I need a decoder ring. In any event, my point was that there are many of us here who have used these compounds in every conceivable fashion, and can answer these questions from personal experience, We aren't repeating some bs we read from other boards. The post of yours I quoted earlier is ridiculous and quite incorrect, and if you don't understand that it is simply another reason you should not be giving advice.

[Phate]

actually every second or third day, because it was said to me that, yes some lifters do that (every day), but there's no reason to do that, because it "covers" and doesn't affect a lot strength or muscle gains ("money in wind")actually, injecting every day keeps your blood levels stable, which helps keep convertion from testosterone to estrogen to a minimum, which in turn limits sides and improves gains, injecting prop every third day is a horrible idea because it will cause huge fluctuations in blood serum levels which will cause more sides and less gains. And your hpta would be more harder beaten up.
I think enanh. would give more (although I've never used it as prop.), because test levels after the effect decreases quite dramatically.
Here's my advice: check out stroid profile forum on this site, compare prop., enanh. and cyp. effects and defects and choose of them, what u like the best.

As I said, I'll do it in the offening. Furthermore, I wasn't saying bullshit at all about prop., because, the advice like that I offered, I firstly got known by the person, from whom the stuff camed. And also many au faits, from gyms and other steroid "boards" instructed, that prop must be injected ESD also known as EOD.

Big, i found my decoder ring, lol, so here it goes, he's saying that prop must be injected every second day which is the same of every other day

[hdd123]

I don't even know what you're saying, I need a decoder ring. In any event, my point was that there are many of us here who have used these compounds in every conceivable fashion, and can answer these questions from personal experience, We aren't repeating some bs we read from other boards. The post of yours I quoted earlier is ridiculous and quite incorrect, and if you don't understand that it is simply another reason you should not be giving advice.

Haahaaa...nice allege (in bold).
Of course, u r absolutely right, so, if don't know the answer I better don't say. I "said" this about prop. better being injected every second day, because I also received the answer from people who are in bodybuilding for at least 20 years, after my bought (prop.), when I was searching for some good advices, how to use that shit.

[Big]

Haahaaa...nice allege (in bold).
Of course, u r absolutely right, so, if don't know the answer I better don't say. I "said" this about prop. better being injected every second day, because I also received the answer from people who are in bodybuilding for at least 20 years, after my bought (prop.), when I was searching for some good advices, how to use that shit.

Could you please explain, in detail, why every second day would be better than every day?

[hdd123]

Could you please explain, in detail, why every second day would be better than every day?

I could it to explain, if I was some kind of roid guru. As I said I just heard this advice, then I checked out a bunch of inf, on net and there were almost the same said. In my opinion, it's done, because hpta won't be so suppresive to hpta. And also there was an info that it's enough to be injected every second or third day to keep the test levels stable, so maybe it'd be just waste of money to inject more. I recently also get info that all injectables including insuline might be hepa-toxic (only in very low rate), so if u doin them frequently they still have some negative sides inside.

[Big]

because hpta won't be so suppresive to hpta. And also there was an info that it's enough to be injected every second or third day to keep the test levels stable, so maybe it'd be just waste of money to inject more. I recently also get info that all injectables including insuline might be hepa-toxic (only in very low rate), so if u doin them frequently they still have some negative sides inside.

Because HPTA won't be so suppressive to HPTA? wtf?
And that's the second time you referenced shooting ed being a waste of money. How would it be a waste of money? You would use the same weekly dosage, only shoot a smaller amount more frequently, so the only added cost would be the few extra syringes a week. I like a good intelligent debate, but I'm out of this one, I concede.

[Phate]

I could it to explain, if I was some kind of roid guru. As I said I just heard this advice, then I checked out a bunch of inf, on net and there were almost the same said. In my opinion, it's done, because hpta won't be so suppresive to hpta. And also there was an info that it's enough to be injected every second or third day to keep the test levels stable, so maybe it'd be just waste of money to inject more. I recently also get info that all injectables including insuline might be hepa-toxic (only in very low rate), so if u doin them frequently they still have some negative sides inside.

how bout you read this thread about hpta supression and then tell us if you still think the way you did in the earlier posts, i can post threads upon threads disproving everything you say, but i'd rather try to help you learn the correct things then just be a dick and tell you your an idiot, not flaming just trying to help people learn

here is a thread on hpta supression
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...pta+supressive