ok well i am about to run another mass cycle and im not sure what the cycle will consist of...well of course test! but as far as deca, is it nessacery to run deca with the test? and i thought about runnning like 40-50mgs of dbol for the first four weeks with test e...i want mass, im not worried so much about being cut up or really defined...i just like a big massive look. So my main question is will deca be needed in this cycle...i really do not want to waste my money on deca when maybe i can just stick with the test and dbol and get the results i want without using deca...what do yall experts think? i really do not mind spending the money but if there is no need than what the point of doing so...thanks for the help!!!