steroid advice?

[mapexman86]

i am 21 i have been working out for awile and i need a kick. i have thought about steroids in the past but now i am making the move. ok i am too much of a baby to inject myself first off. i know that probably sounds bad. and numerous people have told me that injectable is the way to go, there not as hard on the liver this and that, but i am not going there. so my question is what pill form steroid should be taken for a first time user? also any pct advice would be great. i have a small amount of pubertal gyno and that is one of the reasons that i hadnt made the leap in the past. so wih all that in mind any experienced help would be great. wanna keep it as safe as possible and get some good gains.

[Big]

welcome.
stats?

[mapexman86]

i am 6 feet 185 probably around 14%bf

[_007]

you need injectables in a cycle dont worry it dosnt hurt. Look into test enanthate

[mapexman86]

what do you mean i need injectables? there is no cycle that can be taken via pill? i am not worried about the pain. its just outside of my relm of safety. and i hate the idea of doing it all together.

[_007]

its alot safer then eating toxic pills no one here will recomend a oral only cycle

[mapexman86]

ok say so say i grew some balls and went for the gold what dosage would you recomend. and what kind of a pct would you recommend for me to keep from getting worse gyno?

[Big]

ok say so say i grew some balls and went for the gold what dosage would you recomend. and what kind of a pct would you recommend for me to keep from getting worse gyno?

we would recommend you read some of the hundreds and hundreds of threads on beginner cycles and pct, then propose what you think is a good idea for critique.

[mapexman86]

ok. let me ask you about one more thing though. those alternative to steroids clen, tren....all those pill form legal and exspensive stuff? garbage? very toxic? are they going to give anywhere near the same effect?

[Big]

those are legal alternatives, so I wouldn't expect the same results as the real thing.