Whiskie,
Why is it one of the worst you can use?

I recently used it in my first ever cycle with Primobal and finished out with hcg and liked what it did. My problem was that I did not receive all of my primobal so I ran a short 6 week cycle instead of 10 to 12 as expected. I was happy with the winny other than serious site injection pain. I loved the primobal and the hcg worked in restarting my testes.

Thanks for the info though - gonna make me look more closely at it. I am fixing to start a major run at losing more weight, building a lot of lean muscle, and really trying to increase my testosterone production - ie sex drive based on blood work results. I have steadily declined in strenght, growth of muscles, and loss of drive over the last ten years. My work out is a good basic starter and my diet is good and clean now. I have some hcg and winny left over I planned to use. I have hgh, clen, nolva, clomid, test cyp, test ena, and sust on the way. I plan on a hard run stack for 16 - 18 weeks finishing out with the clomid, clen and nolva. might use the hcg and winny mixed in during the end part of the cycle.