Fat people at the gym rant

[lovbyts]

So who has been to the gym and watched these Obese people (350lbs+) who go and walk from one station to another every 10 minutes and dont do ANYTHING? I was watching one guy the other day that in 1 hrs time all he did was 1 stet of triceps pull downs. LOL I see people like that all the time.

Another rant is these guys and women who are FAT that go and all they do is a couple sets of arms; ie. curls, pull downs or bench, sitting of course.

Dont these people have a clue that first they need to put the fork down and they try some cardio? Forget the weight lifter. Get on the bike, treadmill or go for a walk.

Just to clarify;.... This is a Rant, not hate or anger, I dont know where some are getting that from.

[DSM4Life]

I give them credit for at least going.

[smokethedays]

The problem is that most people are "atmospheric", like if they JUST walk into the gym and watch the news or Oprah, they think to themselves " wow, I kicked ass today, sat on the machine and watched the entire show, I deserve a pint of Ice Cream, my cheat meal "
and once they lost 5-10 lbs you'd see them walking into the gym the most athletic walk with wrist wraps, back belt, gloves and maybe a pair of soccer Kleets, its all sports, ain't it

[smokethedays]

I give them credit for at least going.

I do to, excpet for the ones who go once a month or on memorial day weekend

[number twelve]

I give them credit for at least going.

i was just gonna say that...think of when u first started working out...its not like you knew exactly what to do...

[lovbyts]

I give them credit for at least going.

I thought of that but NO, they will expect results without putting any effort in and quit. They would be 1000x better off eating healthier and walking until they get to a weight where they can exercise a little without having a heart attach. I look at it as just another excuse for them to say they tried but it didn't work.

[smokethedays]

i was just gonna say that...think of when u first started working out...its not like you knew exactly what to do...

I was born 11 lbs, 1'1" and 5% BF, you could see my abs but had to do some milk bottle lifts for better abs.

[lovbyts]

i was just gonna say that...think of when u first started working out...its not like you knew exactly what to do...

When I first started working out I had a pretty good idea and was not 100 - 200 lbs over weight.

If I had a car with a blown engine I would not take it to Maco to get it painted and expect it to run again. You have to have some idea of what needs done. I think a lot of these people are just clueless and that's how they got that way in the first place.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

gotta start somewhere right?


what I personally hate, are the "mirror freaks". Ya know, the ones who you never see at the squat rack. Always doing biceps and chest, and checking himself out in the mirror every 5 minutes. Walks around like he owns the gym...

[DSM4Life]

I know its been a long time but think back to how intimidated you were when you first stepped into a gym. You looked around you and just about everyone was build/toned and pulling heavy weight. Its a hell of an ego crusher at first as it really shows where you are compared to others but in the end if they keep asking questions/watch people/learn they will succeed.

[smokethedays]

gotta start somewhere right?


what I personally hate, are the "mirror freaks". Ya know, the ones who you never see at the squat rack. Always doing biceps and chest, and checking himself out in the mirror every 5 minutes. Walks around like he owns the gym...

The same ones who see a bigger guy doing a new work out, and when the big dude leaves, they start immitating the work out trying to get as big instantly, that's always funny, cause the workout ends up a hilarious un-coordinated moves, just like a monkey.

[smokethedays]

I know its been a long time but think back to how intimidated you were when you first stepped into a gym. You looked around you and just about everyone was build/toned and pulling heavy weight. Its a hell of an ego crusher at first as it really shows where you are compared to others but in the end if they keep asking questions/watch people/learn they will succeed.

Excatly, now the problem is that most don't.
From my experience working at a gym 10 hours/day I see how people behave in and out of the gym.
about 80% of the gym members got no fvckin clue what they are doing.
the mass majority know that you gotta have lots of "shakes" to get big

And if you are big well developed and their not, they would think 2 things, either you are on AAS "shoot and sit back watching muscles poppin' every where" or you have no life.

The way I know so, is by talking to alot of out of shape members, most ofthem believe that cardio is the most important aspect of it all as to be in shape. yet they work out almost daily but no results and blame it on the "GENES".

I walk around with a BIG sign on my shirt says "TRAINER", beside the gym offers a COMPLEMENTARY fitness assessment to the members.
guess what, most of them reject that, although its free and very benefeical.

Too much ego to admit that they are out of shape and how on earth this big buff ripped guy could know better than them?! he is on AAS, he knows nothing.

[sassbs11]

yeah they deserve a little credit for turning up. coz if they werent going gym they d be another thread elsewhere ranting on about fat ppl not going to the gym

[DSM4Life]

Excatly, now the problem is that most don't.
From my experience working at a gym 10 hours/day I see how people behave in and out of the gym.
about 80% of the gym members got no fvckin clue what they are doing.
the mass majority know that you gotta have lots of "shakes" to get big

And if you are big well developed and their not, they would think 2 things, either you are on AAS "shoot and sit back watching muscles poppin' every where" or you have no life.

The way I know so, is by talking to alot of out of shape members, most ofthem believe that cardio is the most important aspect of it all as to be in shape. yet they work out almost daily but no results and blame it on the "GENES".

I walk around with a BIG sign on my shirt says "TRAINER", beside the gym offers a COMPLEMENTARY fitness assessment to the members.
guess what, most of them reject that, although its free and very benefeical.

Too much ego to admit that they are out of shape and how on earth this big buff ripped guy could know better than them?! he is on AAS, he knows nothing.

Most think that you need to pay a trainer to ask them anything. Its the gyms job to advertise to their members that a trainer is always there to help.

[lovbyts]

I understand that people have different goals and everyone needs to start somewhere. I also realize that when I first started working out I did TONs of things wrong. Poor form, poor work out routine, poor diet for my goals etc. I watch people/kids making the same mistakes but they will get some results. I'm talking about the LARGE people who do nothing. The most exercise they got was walking from the car to the gym and then sit on the machine/bench that you would really like to be using. Yeah I could go up and say excuse me can I use this but I'm also a little shy/timid and most of the time they really stink from BO and it's not from working out.

I think it's great that some gyms have trainers. They should make it mandatory that when you first sing up you have to spend the first 5 or 10 visits with the trainer unless it's obvious you know what you are doing and even they everyone can use a few pointers.

[DSM4Life]

I understand that people have different goals and everyone needs to start somewhere. I also realize that when I first started working out I did TONs of things wrong. Poor form, poor work out routine, poor diet for my goals etc. I watch people/kids making the same mistakes but they will get some results. I'm talking about the LARGE people who do nothing. The most exercise they got was walking from the car to the gym and then sit on the machine/bench that you would really like to be using. Yeah I could go up and say excuse me can I use this but I'm also a little shy/timid and most of the time they really stink from BO and it's not from working out.

I think it's great that some gyms have trainers. They should make it mandatory that when you first sing up you have to spend the first 5 or 10 visits with the trainer unless it's obvious you know what you are doing and even they everyone can use a few pointers.

Maybe if you turned some of your hate into empathy you could give some of these "large" people a hand.

[lovbyts]

Maybe if you turned some of your hate into empathy you could give some of these "large" people a hand.

It's in no way hate. I have friend that are quite large but there is no ignorance on their part. They know they eat to much but enjoy it. That is not my rant.

[IronReload04]

why were you watching someone for an entire hour

[lovbyts]

why were you watching someone for an entire hour

Because that is all I do is go to the gym and look at other people. I knew someone had to go there. No I'm not the guy who stands at the water cooler watching everyone else and criticizing them, this is just my rant from experience. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed it, I just wanted to bring it up.

[smokethedays]

Most think that you need to pay a trainer to ask them anything. Its the gyms job to advertise to their members that a trainer is always there to help.

See thats the thing, every time a new member sign up or re-news their agreement, they are either told that on spot or contacted by phone later, out of 10 people 1-3 agree to recieve the FREE session.
thats my point.

[kirk3624]

I honestly do not get mad anymore but feel sad for them and how it reflects upon our society. Something like 75% of people over the age of 25 are overweight.

It is depressing to me because:

a) as a country, our health is among the worst in the world
b) no one makes an effort to learn effective exercise techniques
c) these people will get sick, in masses, and become very expensive

[lovbyts]

People.... This is a Rant, not hate or anger, I dont know where you are getting that from

[smokethedays]

I honestly do not get mad anymore but feel sad for them and how it reflects upon our society. Something like 75% of people over the age of 25 are overweight.

It is depressing to me because:

a) as a country, our health is among the worst in the world
b) no one makes an effort to learn effective exercise techniques
c) these people will get sick, in masses, and become very expensive

That's exactly why we are RANTING cause when they get sick and get medical and medicare and other FREE medical services, will guess wt? tax money is paying, just because they decided that another 1/2 lb of Ice Cream won't hurt.

[CheddaNips]

gotta start somewhere right?


what I personally hate, are the "mirror freaks". Ya know, the ones who you never see at the squat rack. Always doing biceps and chest, and checking himself out in the mirror every 5 minutes. Walks around like he owns the gym...

This is why i love you big sexy. (not just because you are big and sexy)

I hear people all the time saying legs and back are a waste of time.

[damiongage]

The same ones who see a bigger guy doing a new work out, and when the big dude leaves, they start immitating the work out trying to get as big instantly, that's always funny, cause the workout ends up a hilarious un-coordinated moves, just like a monkey.

They see someone who they would like to look like, and believe that if they do what they do...they will eventially look like them.

Maybe they do no know what to do...why don't you offer to give them some advise.

Maybe they give up because they do not know where to start, and they do not see results because they do not know what they are doing.

I was extremly obese...5'9 305lbs of fat when I started working out...it would have ment the world to me to have someone offer up a little help without charging me $75 an hour. If you haven't been there, you would not understand the amount of courage it takes to even step into a gym at that size. How dumb you feel even being there. Knowing that people like you, love to give condisending looks, and snickers, instead of offering up a bit of free advise.

You know what kept me in the gym...I made a friend that trained people there. Made me forget about looking stupid and feeling like I didn't even belong in a gym. I looked forward to talking to him, which kept me going, even when I didn,t feel like working out....

Just food for thought.

[Doc.Sust]

saw a 400lb guy on a stairmaster. did it for ten minutes. got off and drank a 400 calorie carbo load drink...... wtf was the point of even doing the stairmaster?

[smokethedays]

They see someone who they would like to look like, and believe that if they do what they do...they will eventially look like them.

Maybe they do no know what to do...why don't you offer to give them some advise.

Maybe they give up because they do not know where to start, and they do not see results because they do not know what they are doing.

I was extremly obese...5'9 305lbs of fat when I started working out...it would have ment the world to me to have someone offer up a little help without charging me $75 an hour. If you haven't been there, you would not understand the amount of courage it takes to even step into a gym at that size. How dumb you feel even being there. Knowing that people like you, love to give condisending looks, and snickers, instead of offering up a bit of free advise.

You know what kept me in the gym...I made a friend that trained people there. Made me forget about looking stupid and feeling like I didn't even belong in a gym. I looked forward to talking to him, which kept me going, even when I didn,t feel like working out....

Just food for thought.

I never said I look at them in a mean way, matter of fact any one who knows me personally knows that I help people on the street that I don't even know or ever met. I went as far as sheltering strangers who need help. so don't tell me that I could have made any one feel studip or dumb. on the other hand here are few REAL conversations I had with some out of shape members:

1) I see this obese woman trying to do pull downs triceps wiht her elbows swinging up and down, completely out of form.
The Conversation: Hello, how are you today, I see that you are working out your triceps, My name is ........ I'm the GM personal training here, I could show you a method to maximize your work out results, can I?
the member: Oh thank you, but Iam a personal trainer my self.
and she was a 5'8" to 5'9" no less than 275 lbs!!!!!

2) I see this member doing lunges with her knee looks like its going to pop out, completely wrong form

The conversation:
same intro as above almost
the member: no thank you I have a trainer.

3) an obese member who is 41% BF, he said that his Dr. told him his LDL is 320
the guy is 5'1" 163 lbs.

He agrees to recieve the FREE session upon signing his membership agreement.

once I start with talking about weight training benefits and cardio...etc
He goes like, uh, where is this going now, this looks like a cheap sales approach and started to puff. I said sorry if it sounded like that to you.
it is a free session and if you don't like to continue then that's ok, just sign here that you refused it.

do you want me to list more?!!

[Doc.Sust]

I never said I look at them in a mean way, matter of fact any one who knows me personally knows that I help people on the street that I don't even know or ever met. I went as far as sheltering strangers who need help. so don't tell me that I could have made any one feel studip or dumb. on the other hand here are few REAL conversations I had with some out of shape members:

1) I see this obese woman trying to do pull downs triceps wiht her elbows swinging up and down, completely out of form.
The Conversation: Hello, how are you today, I see that you are working out your triceps, My name is ........ I'm the GM personal training here, I could show you a method to maximize your work out results, can I?
the member: Oh thank you, but Iam a personal trainer my self.
and she was a 5'8" to 5'9" no less than 275 lbs!!!!!

2) I see this member doing lunges with her knee looks like its going to pop out, completely wrong form

The conversation:
same intro as above almost
the member: no thank you I have a trainer.

3) an obese member who is 41% BF, he said that his Dr. told him his LDL is 320
the guy is 5'1" 163 lbs.

He agrees to recieve the FREE session upon signing his membership agreement.

once I start with talking about weight training benefits and cardio...etc
He goes like, uh, where is this going now, this looks like a cheap sales approach and started to puff. I said sorry if it sounded like that to you.
it is a free session and if you don't like to continue then that's ok, just sign here that you refused it.

do you want me to list more?!!

no need to. there are plenty of idiots at every gym who cant or wont let themselves be helped. all you can do is try, if they dont want the help, you know you tried to do the rt thing

[lovbyts]

saw a 400lb guy on a stairmaster. did it for ten minutes. got off and drank a 400 calorie carbo load drink...... wtf was the point of even doing the stairmaster?

OK that guy was making a mistake and deserved credit for trying. He needed someone to point out that what he was drinking was just putting back what he had gotten rid of but at least he was getting his heart going and building some mussle.
If I had seen this guy I am talking about do ANYTHING near that or even walk for 5 minutes on the treadmill or bike I would have given him some credit. This guy was easily 350 - 400 lbs.
The other person/people I am talking about is typically young to middle aged girls/women who also sit around; no tread mill, no bike and do a couple rows or curls using 5-10 lbs and only one set then stand around talking. These girls/woman are not obese by any means but 40+ lbs over weight and need to also get out walking or doing something.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm being cruel but that is not the rant. I'm not the most energetic and don't work nearly as hard as many people.

Sometimes I only spend 30 - 45 minutes in the gym. I get in, do what I need and get out. I don't slam the weights or go 100 miles an hour. I'm seeing my best results ever by doing VERY slow precise reps. I don't see how many I can pump out in a short time, I try to see how controlled, steady and consistent I can be. I don't know it all, I will never to claim to and always listen to advice whether I decide to use it or not is up to me.

I dont expect everyone or someone obese to spend and hour or two in the gym at a constant sweat. After my back surgery a few months ago I only went once or twice a week just to do some cardio, bike and or treadmill. I could only walk for 5 minutes or so but I could ride the bike for 10. It was pathetic but it was something. I did not go and sit around or do nothing. that is my point, why go if you are not going to do ANYTHING?

[damiongage]

[QUOTE=smokethedays;3992484]I never said I look at them in a mean way, matter of fact any one who knows me personally knows that I help people on the street that I don't even know or ever met. I went as far as sheltering strangers who need help. so don't tell me that I could have made any one feel studip or dumb. on the other hand here are few REAL conversations I had with some out of shape members:

1) I see this obese woman trying to do pull downs triceps wiht her elbows swinging up and down, completely out of form.
The Conversation: Hello, how are you today, I see that you are working out your triceps, My name is ........ I'm the GM personal training here, I could show you a method to maximize your work out results, can I?
the member: Oh thank you, but Iam a personal trainer my self.
and she was a 5'8" to 5'9" no less than 275 lbs!!!!!

2) I see this member doing lunges with her knee looks like its going to pop out, completely wrong form

The conversation:
same intro as above almost
the member: no thank you I have a trainer.

3) an obese member who is 41% BF, he said that his Dr. told him his LDL is 320
the guy is 5'1" 163 lbs.

He agrees to recieve the FREE session upon signing his membership agreement.

once I start with talking about weight training benefits and cardio...etc
He goes like, uh, where is this going now, this looks like a cheap sales approach and started to puff. I said sorry if it sounded like that to you.
it is a free session and if you don't like to continue then that's ok, just sign here that you refused it.

do you want me to list more?!![/QUOTE]

Doing it as your job does not count...

FYI offering a free sesion is a cheap sales tactic...but that is your job...to get clients.

I bet you would get a completely different response if you were in your street clothes and workingout yourself.

I am not trying to call you out...well, I guess I was, but I apologize for doing so. I apparently misunderstood the feelings behind this thread.

[wilson9d]

The problem is that most people are "atmospheric", like if they JUST walk into the gym and watch the news or Oprah, they think to themselves " wow, I kicked ass today, sat on the machine and watched the entire show, I deserve a pint of Ice Cream, my cheat meal "
and once they lost 5-10 lbs you'd see them walking into the gym the most athletic walk with wrist wraps, back belt, gloves and maybe a pair of soccer Kleets, its all sports, ain't it

i truly hope your not serious.

[wilson9d]

and no these people do not know what they are doing. that is why they are obese.

[Doc.Sust]

OK that guy was making a mistake and deserved credit for trying. He needed someone to point out that what he was drinking was just putting back what he had gotten rid of but at least he was getting his heart going and building some mussle.
If I had seen this guy I am talking about do ANYTHING near that or even walk for 5 minutes on the treadmill or bike I would have given him some credit. This guy was easily 350 - 400 lbs.
The other person/people I am talking about is typically young to middle aged girls/women who also sit around; no tread mill, no bike and do a couple rows or curls using 5-10 lbs and only one set then stand around talking. These girls/woman are not obese by any means but 40+ lbs over weight and need to also get out walking or doing something.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm being cruel but that is not the rant. I'm not the most energetic and don't work nearly as hard as many people.

Sometimes I only spend 30 - 45 minutes in the gym. I get in, do what I need and get out. I don't slam the weights or go 100 miles an hour. I'm seeing my best results ever by doing VERY slow precise reps. I don't see how many I can pump out in a short time, I try to see how controlled, steady and consistent I can be. I don't know it all, I will never to claim to and always listen to advice whether I decide to use it or not is up to me.

I dont expect everyone or someone obese to spend and hour or two in the gym at a constant sweat. After my back surgery a few months ago I only went once or twice a week just to do some cardio, bike and or treadmill. I could only walk for 5 minutes or so but I could ride the bike for 10. It was pathetic but it was something. I did not go and sit around or do nothing. that is my point, why go if you are not going to do ANYTHING?

i know the type. they go for social reasons. most have nothing else or nowhere else to go. they are usually middle aged house wives without jobs who go to say that they are trying to lose the weight they put on when having a baby 15 years ago, but it is soooo hard. they blame the weight not coming off because of aging and not the lack of effort or a piss poor diet

[IamtheChitt]

I always see fat kids standing next to a cardio machine while their skinny friend is wasting away on the tread mill. It blows my mind.

[smokethedays]

i truly hope your not serious.

Not serious about wt?

[Kratos]

it's fat people at McD's and China Buffet that piss me off

[G4R]

I feel bad for them to an extent. Years ago I used to work fast food, and I would get obese people in all the time that would order the equivalent of 5 meals for just themselves, but turn around and want a Diet Pepsi (because they were convinced they were getting fat from that!). Too many of them are falling for all that Atkins crap, where if I eat 30lbs of meat, its all good! Most of them try and use the gym to justify themselves, "I go to the gym everyday for an hour, and even started drinking diet pop, why can't I loose weight? Sure I ate a 12 piece bucket from KFC, but hey.... I am on Atkins!"

[FallenWyvern]

Hey man, fat people are our friends. If everyone was in shape, would you look good?

[lovbyts]

MMMmmmmm KFC. I love BBQ chicken.... the perfect cheater meal.

Yes I know several rather large people who drink a LOT of diet pop. I contribute 60% of their size to the amount of pop they drink, like a 6 pack a day. I think I have maybe 1 pop a month now. MMMmmmm BBQ KFC and Coke. LOL

[smokethedays]

Hey man, fat people are our friends. If everyone was in shape, would you look good?

never thought of that way. Good point.