Just said hello yesterday... got gear. seek advice.

[ANIMAL.]

Hey,

I just said hi yesterday. I'm new to the site. My stats are:

• 6'1
• 215
• 25 years old
• Been working out hard for last two years
• this is my 2nd cycle

Just got Equipoise, Winny, & clom/nolv.

Purposed cycle:

• week 1-12 Equipoise

• week 5-12 Winny

• week 13-15 clom/nolv

Any comments on that would be greatly appreciated. I've done a lot of research already and answered a lot of my own questions. The thing I'm asking for help on is the dosage. I've seen soooo many and some of them are quite different from each-other. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

[smokethedays]

Bad cycle my friend, RESEARCH

[PT]

throw some test in there. i know people that cut without it but personally i include it in every cycle. prop, winny and eq will make a great cutter

[smokethedays]

The reason I didn't suggest anything because the WHOLE cycle needs to be changed.

Good luck

[ANIMAL.]

throw some test in there

ok, duly noted. Thanks man. any advice on the doses?

[ANIMAL.]

The reason I didn't suggest anything because the WHOLE cycle needs to be changed.

Good luck

Any advice on how?

[PT]

ok, duly noted. Thanks man. any advice on the doses?

here you go.
week 1-10 test prop 50-75mgs a day
week 2-10 winny 50mgs a day
week 1-5 anavar or t-bol
start pct day after last shot

eg is a long ester and the others are short. eq needs to be run for about 10-12 weeks min. and prop and winny are usually run alot shorter so you should stick to the shorter ones like above. i have run test, winny and prop but the cycle above is probably better for you

[jstraw428]

The reason I didn't suggest anything because the WHOLE cycle needs to be changed.

Good luck

How can you say the whole cycle needs to be changed, he hasnt even listed dosages yet......

I definately think you need to add some test in with the EQ and winny.....

Prop, should be taken ed, but eod willl be ok.....EQ has a very long half life and can be taken once a wk......

You could add a long estered test, and if you diet is in order, you will not bloat too much at alll......

[smokethedays]

How can you say the whole cycle needs to be changed, he hasnt even listed dosages yet......

I definately think you need to add some test in with the EQ and winny.....

Prop, should be taken ed, but eod willl be ok.....EQ has a very long half life and can be taken once a wk......

You could add a long estered test, and if you diet is in order, you will not bloat too much at alll......

This is how buddy:
EQ week 1-12 (when is it supposed to work its cut off)
No TEST
Winny and EQ?!!! when u hear of that cycle b4?

[jstraw428]

Dont listen to the goofey ass looking superman above......I dont think i have read one comment he has made, that has been beneficial to anyone, except to maybe jack up his post count.....

[smokethedays]

Any advice on how?

Week 1-16 Test Prop. 100mg/EOD
Week 8-15 Winny 50 mg ED
Week 16.5-19 PCT

Good luck

[PT]

This is how buddy:
EQ week 1-12 (when is it supposed to work its cut off)
No TEST
Winny and EQ?!!! when u hear of that cycle b4?

i use winny and eq in most of my cutting cycles

[jstraw428]

Week 1-16 Test Prop. 100mg/EOD
Week 8-15 Winny 50 mg ED
Week 16.5-19 PCT

Good luck

Good work buddy, keep posting useless crap......Youll hit 10000 post before no time......

[smokethedays]

Good work buddy, keep posting useless crap......Youll hit 10000 post before no time......

[smokethedays]

Dont listen to the goofey ass looking superman above......I dont think i have read one comment he has made, that has been beneficial to anyone, except to maybe jack up his post count.....

Listen bro, you really got to have some respect, I really don't see what makes you THINK that you know something valuable.

I didn't offend you by a single word, why you gotta talk shit?!!
Really pathetic you are

[smokethedays]

Good work buddy, keep posting useless crap......Youll hit 10000 post before no time......

Why don't your smart ass show me what's wrong with that?

[Big]

Good work buddy, keep posting useless crap......Youll hit 10000 post before no time......

it worked for me

[Big]

sorry, just trying to break the tension.

[smokethedays]

it worked for me

wt's wrong with that Jackass Big?!

[Amorphic]

lol, how did this turn into another debate?

[smokethedays]

lol, how did this turn into another debate?

not sure borther, I helped the dude with the cycle, the other started going off
saying I post nothing but BS

[jstraw428]

how can you not understand that.....You post useless crap all the time......And if you think noone runs EQ and Winny together, then maybe you should do more research......For someone who has been here since 2004, you sure say alot of stupid crap.,......Keep it up though, youll have 10000 posts in no time.....

[smokethedays]

how can you not understand that.....You post useless crap all the time......And if you think noone runs EQ and Winny together, then maybe you should do more research......For someone who has been here since 2004, you sure say alot of stupid crap.,......Keep it up though, youll have 10000 posts in no time.....

Wt's with the post count?!
why is hurting ur ass so much

[jstraw428]

not sure borther, I helped the dude with the cycle, the other started going off
saying I post nothing but BS

You didnt help the dude, you told him to do more research... and that no one has ever heard of EQ and Winny together..... the only thing he was really lacking was test.....

You said, im not suggesting anything, because it is a bad cycle.....If your not going to suggest anything, then dont post.....

[smokethedays]

your ass is mad cause I put you in check couple of times when you wrote stupid advices, didn't I

It's ok Straw dude, you could ask me instead of hating.

[smokethedays]

You didnt help the dude, you told him to do more research... and that no one has ever heard of EQ and Winny together..... the only thing he was really lacking was test.....

You said, im not suggesting anything, because it is a bad cycle.....If your not going to suggest anything, then dont post.....

Why r u so heated dumb ass
relax, you are making a fool out of ur self Straw

[Big]

Lets get back on topic here guys...

[jstraw428]

When exactly did you put me in check

[PT]

you guys need to lay off the tren

[jstraw428]

you guys need to lay off the tren

I apologize to everyone for getting a little out of whack.....i actually just lowered my Tren dosage about two weeks ago, but at the same time added in some masteron....

[smokethedays]

When exactly did you put me in check

See I told you that your a kid, and that's why this part got to you.

you just got some ego issues and u think u know it all, what you know is jack crap buddy, all you know is based on your shitty experience and i'm sure ur physique tells about it real well. or it's based on some biased articles on the web.
what do you think you are a fvckin' scientist just because u know how to write up a steroid cycle for some mass?!!

Get a life mutha ****a.

[Amorphic]

watch the flaming guys. it isnt worth getting banned/suspended

[smokethedays]

watch the flaming guys. it isnt worth getting banned/suspended

Man i'm just tired of these guys going off like they were holding a Phd in Organic chem. from Harvard or something

everybody almost think they are the AAS gurus, an un-matched chimsts or Pro-BBers

they don't realize that we just share experiences here and learn a bit, criticize me all you want just don't act like yo know it all, cause no one on here does.

[im83931]

[jstraw428]

S and i'm sure ur physique tells about it real well.

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My physique currently is 5'7 210lbs 8 % bf not bad in my opinion......what are your stats?

[smokethedays]

My physique currently is 5'7 210lbs 8 % bf not bad in my opinion......what are your stats?

I told you that u r a kid, and a bitch to go on here listing ur shitty stats just to compare ur self to me or prove ur self better.
just like a stupid pole dancer "my tits are nicer, my ass is more round than hers, yeah I give a better BJ than you"

STFU kid.

[jstraw428]

Well then, i guess my tits are better than yours!

[NATE0406]

guys cool down...

to the thread starter get your self some test and purpose a complete cycle and then let us help you with it.

[ANIMAL.]

to the thread starter get your self some test and purpose a complete cycle and then let us help you with it.[/QUOTE]


HAHAH Jesus H. Christ!!! Thanks for the people who actually gave positive and helpful feedback. I'm gonna try to get my hands on the test for sure now because that's what the consensus of the positive feedback is. I actually got blood-work done today and am awaiting the results. Now say I couldn't get my hands on the test right away or period, could I start my cycle anyways and still have it be beneficial to me? I'm not pulling this cycle out of my ass. It was recommended by a past Mr. Pittsburgh who seemed like he knows what he was talking about. Did he steer me wrong? His exact word were, "I mean, you don't need the test, it's really just gonna compliment the cycle, not a necessity". Since I was a little low on funds, I just grabbed the EQ & Winny and my post cycle therapy. WTF.

[NATE0406]

listen bro you need test for health reasons. what will you do when you start this cycle and your natty test production shuts down??? eq nor winny will provide you that. all steroids will shut you down. now yes it is possiable to run this cycle with no test but not reconmended.